Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
What’s the part number of Your accDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
11th Jan 2021 11:40 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
I have tried it with an FPLA and a BH32.
Both take the FW from Pat and both give exactly the same error.
The error date seems to suggest it is deliberately crippled to me from my car's creation date.
Click image to enlarge
It works on a D3 doesn't it with an additional ECU? Maybe they did remove it then put it back on 2015+.
If so, guess that pointer/flag needs finding and clearing...which is why I thought a BCM flash to FH or GH would help.
Pretty much reached the limit of my skills here as not done any machine code since I was at college and would have no idea how to get it off, decrypt it and what to look for.
Are you going to revisit it then James?In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
11th Jan 2021 11:55 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
I may do all I know is pat told
Me that they didn’t do acc on d4 till 2015 but did in
The ranger rover 2010 on so thereticly it electrically should
Work
But there Again I was told you couldn’t get 2015 adaptive lights to work and
I didDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
12th Jan 2021 12:00 am
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Just stumbled across these official LR 2010 press photos in the Disco3 gallery:
where it clearly shows the ACC function buttons.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
14th Jan 2021 1:44 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
Don’t know but it wasn’t a option on a d4 until 2015Disco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
14th Jan 2021 2:16 pm
Famousfive
Member Since: 12 Aug 2014
Location: Southampton
Posts: 1806
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
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Trust me it ain’t just ccf I worked on it for months with pat at gap
Messaged him again the other day as was gonna try again and he recons there is something in the engine ecu that just isn’t wriitten into it for it to work and after 2015 they changed software cause of euro 6 and was then addedDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
14th Jan 2021 5:02 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
So, ACC may have been an option prior to 2015 if the photos are anythng to go by. The car is clearly a pre "pop up" gear selector, but it is RHD so poss not USA/Europe?
Why is there a fuse in 6P when its only purpose is ACC. But then why is 7E absent as well as the rest of the cabling pre 201(5)6
If we think it could be CCF then the setting tried should be documented/shared as an "as tried list" before saying it isn't. It is doubtful that all combinations that have no logic or relation to ACC or speed control can be tried. I have only tried a few combinations, but would have to do it again as I can't be 100% sure which with what. Although I expect it is pretty similar to what a 2016 is.
If the engine ECU had additional coding since 2015 (or the crippled code activated) to support it, then it existed there before so could be re-added. Generally, code is left in place and built on unless it is defective or has a completely new ECU architecture. I doubt is was a rewrite.
What was the address space it lived at in a RRS for example and what is there in a Discovery 2010-2014 (0x00 or 0xFF?) and what is in a 2015+
What exactly does the "calibrate CCM" do? What does it talk to and why does it not get a reply or get ignored?
An EU6 engine classification would not need ACC to comply as it would need to be on all cars and it isn't so why write new code for a car already going to go out of production? Even if it was copied from another platform it would still need to be tested. So this leads me to believe it is in there somewhere.
It's the "what needs to be activated" in the CCF to wake it up and/or "how to re-enable" it before the CCF.
I guess it's about ROI. But if someone like Pat cracked it then charged more than the FastLane £25 for the flash I would have it and I guess a lot of folk watching this thread would too.
Aliens didn't code it so a human can decode it and make it work - just takes time and money* to unlock it. Just like everything else.
*and skill in this area else I would have a go!In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
14th Jan 2021 5:29 pm
James1974
Member Since: 23 Nov 2017
Location: Stevenage
Posts: 990
As pat said and I’m
Sure gap know to be fair
The d4 between 2010-2015 there was no optional extra to have this so any code in the engine ecu was not added as wasn’t needed
The Range Rover 2010-2015 is was an optional extra so the code was written to the engine ecu
Yes as you say the code could prob be added to the engine ecu and that but at what cost no one know the fact that a lot of people tried and none have ever got it to work must say something
BBS tried to no avail then got a Range Rover and got it to work this is something I think I am gonna pass on Now I spent months on and off trying every ccf setting you could try and it would never get into calibration modeDisco 3 gone but not forGotten
Welcome disco 4
Flappy paddles working from gap
Heated steering wheel done
Bluetooth iPod connection done
Xeon lights (facelift) done
Afs retrofit done
Logic 7 retrofit done
Armrest fridge
Facelift rear lights
Retrofit High beam assist done
Genuine 22” Range Rover sport alloys
Retrofit acc (gave up not possible)
retrofit tpms done
Retrofit Range Rover lcd digital dash. Done
Retrofit blind spot assist done
14th Jan 2021 6:11 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
DISCOJASE wrote:
Hello All
For sale is my 2014 MY15 HSE LUX Discovery 4 in MONTALCINO RED with Ebony Black Windsor Premium leather interior.
3.0L Diesel
8 speed Auto
Euro 5
7 seats
Full LAND ROVER service history
LR EXTENDED WARRANTY (4/2020)
This car is the Highest Spec Discovery 4 in the UK (to my knowledge).
HSE LUX SPEC:
Meridian Surround sound system (825watts)
Rear seat Entertainment with 2x wireless headphones & remote
Digital TV & DVD Player
Heated front & rear seats
Black extended Roof rails
3x sunroofs (2x fixed 1x Electric)
Above the HSE Lux spec this has the following ALL OEM:
REAR LOCKING DIFF
ADAPTIVE XENON LIGHTS
REAR AC
SURROUND CAMERAS
BLIND SPOT ASSIST
TOW ASSIT PACK
TIMED CLIMATE WITH REMOTE
IN CONTROL APPS
BLACK PACK
HEATED STEERING WHEEL
The best option and the only in the UK is:
Adaptive Cruise Control
This was advertised as an EU5 not an EU6 and was a 2014 MY15.
Who has it now? Someone who won't be interested in this thread as they already have everything In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
14th Jan 2021 7:33 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
Posts: 8069
A few weeks back when I was looking for a ACC radar sensor I came across a listing on eBay.com (eBay.co.uk server had gone down), the listing was in America for new unused ACC ecu’s for D3’s, not radar sensors, the listing stated (along with a wiring diagram) a Radar sensor was also needed.
I don’t know if this is relevant as it’s beyond my knowledge.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
14th Jan 2021 10:22 pm
Dondiddy
Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 307
Separate radar unit and ecu for the D3, The ecu is incorporated into the radar unit on the D4.
15th Jan 2021 8:29 am
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
It isn't anything to do with EU6 because that required AdBlue which was MY 2016 and ACC was an option on 2015 and 2016.
The D4 that has ACC from factory does not have AdBlue.
So that makes it a 2015 or earlier so that is not EU6 so the statement from Pat:
James1974 wrote:
he recons there is something in the engine ecu that just isn’t wriitten into it for it to work and after 2015 they changed software cause of euro 6 and was then added
I'd suggest isn't the case. *Maybe* written into the ECU at 2015 or enabled but nothing to do with EU6. If it worked on a D3 then it probably wasn't specially written either.
The car was built first quarter 2014 and was driving around a month or two later but carries an F in the year identifier of the VIN. So it is a 2015 car born early.
Only going by the "As Built" details not an ECU scan:
The Cruise Control assembly is an FH22-9G768AC - Pat provides FH22-9G768-AE
Comparing the CCF settings there are several that differ and do not appear in the IID tool so these cannot be tried.
In fact one that looked pretty important has already been mentioned by BBS Spy here:
Just trying this myself but cannot find CMbB in the ccf config files and where
but it wasn't available in IID and still isn't.
I discovered that CMbB is "Collision Mitigation by Braking" and it needs to be enabled. On my VIN as built it is "not fitted/disabled" perhaps this simply needs to be enabled to support the CCF setting
"Forward collision warning -> Forward collision warning GEN 1" along with others and without it it is giving "incompatible configuration" so won't calibrate. Perhaps the FH and GH cars toggle this automatically when you enter one of the other ACC settings?
Oh if only it were that simple - well it might be
Anyway I thought I would share my initial finding for feedback.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
17th Jan 2021 10:05 pm
Dondiddy
Member Since: 26 Dec 2019
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 307
The forward alert mitigation by braking should be in the full CCF list (untested) list and can be enabled by the Gap tool. The forward alert uses info from the radar unit so no harm in trying to enable it I suppose. When enabled It adds the option to the vehicle set up menu and it can then be enabled/disabled from there. It will not stay enabled however until the calibration routine has been carried out.
17th Jan 2021 10:37 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
Location: Somerset
Posts: 353
Hello.
It is in the and I enabled it but as you say it goes away as I can't calibrate.
The CMbB is a separate CCF setting and doesn't exist and should be either enabled (desirable by me!) or disabled/not fitted as I have.
Cheers.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
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