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Trantorman
 


Member Since: 12 Feb 2011
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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4
Another Dead D4, Broken Crank

sadly my D4 commercial , died today, death rattle then stopped, diagnosis, is a broken crank, the crankshaft pulley wobbles when the retaining nut is turned and the back of the crankshaft does not turn...

So that now leaves me with a 2011 commercial (173,000 miles needing an engine or a new owner.
a 2010 6 speed D4 that runs but needs turbos on it which has done 137,000 miles, so this could become the donor for the Commercial, but I don't have time or interest to do that work. and I have a complete D4 engine and 8 speed box that I removed from my original D4 when it died after an over speed event, that engine is complete and was turning when it was removed. so could be a source of parts.

The challenge is I would like to re-engine my commercial with a fully rebuilt engine, but have no confidence in any of the engine suppliers other than land rover. the vehicle its self is a good spec and known to me so i am confident in the rest of the Disco.

so what is the current conscientious on the cost for a long land rover engine and two new turbos fitted and back in the car?


or sell the lot and go an buy a proper 4x4 that will last longer than bar of chocolate, (if anyone fancies some projects drop me a PM)
I am up near Aberdeen by the way.
  
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rrhool
 


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I admire your persistence! Most people would have given up after the first dead Disco, but you persevered and had two more! Laughing
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Going rate is around £8k + VAT for a replacement 3.0, Inc fitting
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Post #208541619th Sep 2019 7:57 pm
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Trantorman
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

rrhool wrote:
I admire your persistence! Most people would have given up after the first dead Disco, but you persevered and had two more! Laughing


Thats also not counting 2 3.6 tdv8 Range rovers that went bang.. Big Cry
  
Post #208542919th Sep 2019 8:25 pm
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Trantorman
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

Disco_Mikey wrote:
Going rate is around £8k + VAT for a replacement 3.0, Inc fitting


Mike

I left you a message earlier while waiting on the recovery truck, is that a LandRover full engine and new turbo's?

whats your lead time on doing it?
Thanks
  
Post #208543019th Sep 2019 8:26 pm
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Mr Kington
 


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Buy a Ssangyong !! 7 year warranty and can do the same as a Disco.
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Post #208543119th Sep 2019 8:34 pm
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Trantorman wrote:
Disco_Mikey wrote:
Going rate is around £8k + VAT for a replacement 3.0, Inc fitting


Mike

I left you a message earlier while waiting on the recovery truck, is that a LandRover full engine and new turbo's?

whats your lead time on doing it?
Thanks


Genuine LR lump, but no turbos. Would need to price them up.

Currently booking for 4 weeks in advance, mid October
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Post #208543519th Sep 2019 8:45 pm
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Trantorman
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

Thanks Mike

Price it all up and PM me.

if you fancy the shed full of parts I have happy to have a chat to ease the pain on the repairs Whistle
  
Post #208544319th Sep 2019 9:28 pm
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Trantorman
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

Mr Kington wrote:
Buy a Ssangyong !! 7 year warranty and can do the same as a Disco.


Do we know anything at all about them?

I would prefer a commercial internals, it suits me better for my usage and and the ability to tow a car trailer is a requirement.

I am thinking of buying a 2nd 4.4 aTDV8 Range Rover and stripping out the back of it and getting a commercial. style floor made up.
  
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Red Merle
 


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Do we know anything about them?

Well, the warranty exclusions (once you get past the first few reasonable ones) don’t bode well 😳

https://www.ssangyonggb.co.uk/pages/warranty-terms-and-exclusions

Apart from the usual mileage restrictions (that never gets mentioned in their headline “7 Year Warranty” banner), many of the exclusions point towards plenty of arguments with Ssangyong. And no, it doesn’t “do what a Disco does”, lacking height adjustable, self levelling, all round independent air suspension for a start. Are they still running live rear axles on the SsangYong Rectum too?!
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Trantorman wrote:
rrhool wrote:
I admire your persistence! Most people would have given up after the first dead Disco, but you persevered and had two more! Laughing


Thats also not counting 2 3.6 tdv8 Range rovers that went bang.. Big Cry


What are you doing to these engines to blow so many up??
 

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Mr Kington
 


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Red Merle, went over the warranty in detail personally and also with the dealer. It is like for like with most manufactures. I am on their servicing plan so only authorised dealership work so they have stated if anything goes wrong they will fix it. Yep there may be some battles but I am sure there will be with other car producers. No it doesn't have independent air suspension, clearly if this is important to someone then do not buy it. For me it means I am not replacing an air compressor every three years and a number of bags, sorting out leaks etc etc.

I was responding to the Op as a suggestion that Ssangyong have a number of vehicles that may suit his use, like the Musso etc etc.
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Trantorman
 


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United Kingdom 2015 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Commercial XS Auto Orkney GreyDiscovery 4

robpenrose wrote:
Trantorman wrote:
rrhool wrote:
I admire your persistence! Most people would have given up after the first dead Disco, but you persevered and had two more! Laughing


Thats also not counting 2 3.6 tdv8 Range rovers that went bang.. Big Cry


What are you doing to these engines to blow so many up??


That's simple and easy using them, as a family we run 4 at any one point in time, these engines hit a mileage point around 130-170,000 miles and they go bang or go on to do star ship mileages.

Servicing is all top notch and i am a long term holder of LandRover products, the simple realty is LandRover can no longer build high mileage capable engines, you only need to look at the number on here that have gone bang.
Changed days from the earlier engines that ran forever..
  
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Johnny V
 


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Another Dead D4

Hi,
Have just joined all the other sufferers - was on holiday in Peak District a week ago and was driving back to my caravan from Buxton, thought I heard a slight ticking sound like a stone in the tyre - within two minutes sounded like the bottom was falling out of the engine - stopped - diagnosis now a seized/broken crank !
Just to make things even more annoying had just had cam belts, water pump, and drive belt replaced four weeks ago, plus car is serviced correctly albeit not with a Land Rover dealer.
Good old Green Flag - Transporter for Car, Us, Dogs, and Towing the Caravan home.
Car is a 2012 3.0SDV6 HSE with just 86,000 miles from new - now have a car that working is worth about £15k ? but to get to that point possibly have to spend c.£6-8k on having engine replaced.
My 'Mr Fixit' is trying to find a wreck that has a good engine and Turbo's that he can test before fitting in mine - obviously dependent upon age/mileage might need new cam belts !
Can't believe Land Rover have just allowed this problem to continue
Now driving a Skoda Fabia Diesel that I ahve been lent, 130,000 miles and starts first touch.
Mr Unhappy Jon
  
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Feel sorry for you. Every D4 owners worst nightmare.

Maybe you want to add to this:

https://www.disco4.com/forum/bbc-watchdog-...83854.html

Probably is worth doing timing belt and fuel pump belt while the engine is out as its probably a lot quicker.

Hope you manage to get it sorted and keep another D4 on the road.
 

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