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Auto at traffic lights
What's the latest thoughts - best to go into Neutral or leave it in Drive at traffic lights?
8th Jun 2010 10:54 am
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Neutral, unless SWMBO is in the car then leave it in drive as I get the "U bought an auto, what U doin that for" line that I also get when I use command shift.
8th Jun 2010 10:58 am
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As a member of Club "Given up on the EPB" I select Park. I was taught park or handbrake always to stop you hitting the car in front if some numpty bumps into the back of the car2012 Defender 110 XS Utility 2.2
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8th Jun 2010 11:00 am
crwoody
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As above - avoid the EPB like the plague and use park unless I can see the traffic ahead is already moving.
I hate it when it's dark and I have to sit for ages behind someone with their foot on the brake with the high-level light burning into my retinas Clive
8th Jun 2010 12:43 pm
discoteca
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crwoody wrote:
I hate it when it's dark and I have to sit for ages behind someone with their foot on the brake with the high-level light burning into my retinas
you probably hate it as much as when I sit behind someone in an auto who's in park that then flashes their reversing lights at me, making me think they are about to inadvertantly go backwards, before moving off as the driver moves the selector out of park and down through reverse to get to D. equally
8th Jun 2010 12:57 pm
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Since I lost complete faith in the EPB I never stopped for traffic lights again.
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8th Jun 2010 1:03 pm
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the key is left foot braking (as recommended by Honest John), right foot on the gas ready to pull away at speed and burn rubber
scares the out of me when I see the car in front go into reverse as sliding from Park to Drive.D4 HSE - Aintree Green
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thanks for all the interesting replies - I was wondering whether leaving it in Drive causes wear in the drivetrain?
8th Jun 2010 7:21 pm
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GlosBoy wrote:
the key is left foot braking (as recommended by Honest John), right foot on the gas ready to pull away at speed and burn rubber
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8th Jun 2010 7:29 pm
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I don't think wear would be a problem, after all, the torque converter is just a fluid coupling with a low drag at tick over, probably less of a problem than keeping a manual in gear with the clutch down in the same circumstances.Clive
8th Jun 2010 7:33 pm
DaveS
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I always use the EPB. This avoids dazzling the driver of the car behind. If I can see that I will be stopped for a while then I shift into neutral as recommended in the handbook. There is no need for left foot braking since the EPB disengages automatically when I move off.
8th Jun 2010 7:34 pm
mikeyp
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crwoody wrote:
I don't think wear would be a problem, after all, the torque converter is just a fluid coupling with a low drag at tick over, probably less of a problem than keeping a manual in gear with the clutch down in the same circumstances.
...and on that basis an auto stationary in D will use more fuel than if in N.
Whether is measurable though, I have no idea.
10th Jun 2010 8:55 pm
crwoody
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I've often wondered about this myself, when you put an auto into "D" you normally get a noticeable drop in RPM so the drag in the torque converter is noticeable and would clearly lead to slightly higher consumption, as you say though, whether it is measurable or significant is questionable, even more so considering the short periods of time involved.Clive
10th Jun 2010 9:16 pm
wvlenthe
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Well the extra fuel consumption caused by the torque converter drag when sitting at the traffic light is certainly not noticeable when you go for D, left foot braking, sand mode, rev it a bit and on green lift left foot and floor right foot.
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out of me when I see the car in front go into reverse as sliding from Park to Drive.
