marcon
Member Since: 01 Mar 2006
Location: wex's Shed
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I live in Ireland and got my Bellautos tool in the post.Arrived home from work at around 6.30 pm set up unit on laptop(a couple of minutes)couldnt wait until next day so took a chance on e-mail to Pete ,got reply followed by phone call and was test driving D3 with upgrade in no time. 
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 7th Nov 2009 11:47 pm |
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oddboy
Member Since: 29 Oct 2009
Location: norfolk
Posts: 472
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bellautos wrote:buellbeast wrote:Group Buy 
Humm , il think of something to please everyone for christmass  , im not sure what it will be yet because the BAS box is already at a cut down price to the forum members.
Pete
christmas special availible yet ?  Richard
club none owner
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| 30th Nov 2009 8:30 pm |
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wilsonmg
Member Since: 16 Apr 2008
Location: Wigan
Posts: 335
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buellbeast wrote:I had the Autologic on my last D3 (it was very good). I fancied something different, bespoke, or are they all the same
I have the Autologic, how does is compare to BAS ? Still miss my D3 
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| 30th Nov 2009 9:22 pm |
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oddboy
Member Since: 29 Oct 2009
Location: norfolk
Posts: 472
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tis december the month of festive offers Richard
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| 1st Dec 2009 10:13 am |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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Pete, I noticed from your pdf file that you can save your original ecu file. I have a Turbochip remap and I'm happy with it as I've not compared it with anything else. I also have a Faultmate MSV and I see you and Colin are working hard to release a BAS option for the Faultmate.
Now the confusion  Colin says that at present I will not be able to save and reapply my original ecu map (Turbochip) but your pdf file says your box will allow this. Am I missing something as I would prefer the option to revert back to my remap without extra expense if I don't find any improvement? Would I be better off with the BAS system or use the Faultmate facility when available?
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| 1st Dec 2009 4:51 pm |
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peteJ
Member Since: 20 Sep 2009
Location: St Albans
Posts: 75
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I understand that if 'faultmate' actually reads the engine map then even if that file is modified then it will be saved. So if you have Turbochip, JE, BELL etc then it will 'read and save' that data.
Howvever, if faultmate simply ID's the software file (and has an original matching file in it's database) then it will not actually read and save the engine map file.
You need to ask BBS whether their faultmate tool will actually 'read and save' the engine map data area??
I had my own car modified twice and the 2nd tuner simply read out Turbochip's file...saved the data then put a new modified file into the car.
Hope this helps
Maybe BBS/Bell can explain
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| 2nd Dec 2009 12:11 pm |
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oddboy
Member Since: 29 Oct 2009
Location: norfolk
Posts: 472
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peteJ wrote:
Maybe BBS/Bell can explain
there too busy working out a christmas special Richard
club none owner
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| 2nd Dec 2009 3:04 pm |
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AWD man
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: In Drag
Posts: 831
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My B.A.S interface has both my original modified map plus Pete's modified map on it,
If your Disco has a modified map on the ecu when you 1st download the ecu data, then you'll always have that map on the interface, (saved as an original map.)
In fact I currently have 3 maps on my interface, 2 from Pete (full and a slightly lesser one) and the original chipped map (by who knows) 57 RRS TDV8
BAS Map
D3: Gone but not forgotten
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| 2nd Dec 2009 3:10 pm |
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oddboy
Member Since: 29 Oct 2009
Location: norfolk
Posts: 472
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AWD which is best then? Richard
club none owner
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| 2nd Dec 2009 3:14 pm |
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AWD man
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: In Drag
Posts: 831
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In a nutshell Pete's map is smoother
The original map I had (do not know by who) had a real dead area followed by a huge surge, where as pete's has much less turbo lag with a nice smooth power/tourqe curve (almost like a N/A motor).
I'm assuming (as I'm no mapper) that Pete's is a map more centrered around tourqe, making it much easier to tow and less "stick stiring" while solo... The Auto boys may have a different map for more punch..I'm not sure, you'd have to ask Pete 57 RRS TDV8
BAS Map
D3: Gone but not forgotten
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| 3rd Dec 2009 12:33 pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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AWD man wrote:The original map I had (do not know by who) had a real dead area followed by a huge surge, where as pete's has much less turbo lag with a nice smooth power/tourqe curve (almost like a N/A motor).
I have a switchable remap supplied by "a company" (nothing to do with any sponsors on this forum) and what you are describing is exactly how mine feels....
It has a bit of a dead area until 2100rpm and then kicks in fairly strong....it works well, but I'm not 100% convinced by it.
As soon as Pete and Colin sort out their final details, I'll be knocking on their door for a BAS/BBS remap  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| 3rd Dec 2009 12:41 pm |
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AWD man
Member Since: 03 Jul 2009
Location: In Drag
Posts: 831
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57 RRS TDV8
BAS Map
D3: Gone but not forgotten
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| 3rd Dec 2009 12:52 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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To confirm a bit about the MSV2 tool, it will read and save an encrypted tool locked version of what ever is on the ecu already for back up purposes if you ever need it.
No tuned files as mentioned are stored in its database for Generic tuning , the use of ID and generic tuning is what Autologic have done and we wish to stay away from this method for our reasons id rarther not get into on a forum.
The only files that can be used without having to have come from me are standard versions ONLY.
ALL tuned files will have to be supplied by me and codded to your tool and car, just as the current BAS interface does.
Currently the tools available from BBS is the MSV2 which you can buy software modules for the D3 where needed for CCF edit flsh programming, full car diagnotics etc etc.
The tool we are working on will be a BAS branded BBS tool that is dedicated to tuning and diagnostic fault codes just as my current BAS box does with the exception it will work on the 2010 models as well as the current ones
It will not come as standard with CCF edit and full car diagnostics etc etc.
However you will be able to upgrade it to full MSV2 type level when ever you wish by buying software moduels for it from BBS direct.
So as an example.
You can buy a BAS/BBS remap interface from me for tuning of your car, when and if the time comes that you want to upgrade it to the full diagnostic package with ccf edit etc you can pay for the addons and it will happen with a software unlock code and will convert the tool from just a remap interface to a ful MSV2 tool.
Its primary role is to better the current BAS interface because it will also have the capeability to be used on the 2010 models EG D4 & RRS etc.
I hope that clears things up a little.
Pete
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| 3rd Dec 2009 3:53 pm |
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BrumLee
Member Since: 07 Mar 2008
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1360
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So that's two counts now why I jumped the gun and bought too early  
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| 3rd Dec 2009 4:03 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
Posts: 2532
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Ill add to save people thinking they have got my existing BAS remap interface to early.
The new BAS interface will not be available for some weeks/months yet untill we are 100% we have completed its functions.
In its base form it will only do the same as the current BAS version does on the D3, with the capeability to be upgraded later when cars are out of warranty etc to a full diagnostic tool, and of course it will have the 2010 functions added as well.
Because the new hardware needed will be far far more complex inside and the software is changed to cope with the new 2010 stuff the cost of the tool will also rise slightly than compared to the current version bas tool.
Please remember the MSV2 was not available with D3 engine flashing when i first relesed the bas tool over 18 months agao, its only over the last few weeks where its been ready for the public release and the tuning file version of the flash file loaded is still not out yet.althow it wil be very soon.
As a remap interface if you currently have my BAS tool and have no wish to make diagnostic CCF changes to your car or have full level diagnostic capeability you have no need change it for the new version when its available.
Pete
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