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jeflew
 


Member Since: 01 Jan 2010
Location: Bristol
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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3
Bio Diesel

First let me say thanks to all for this site....brilliant information.

My questions relates to use of bio diesel. I think the vehicle hand book says the bio-diesel is not suitable. However, forcourts are often selling diesel with %'s of bio-diesel. Should I avoid bio-diesel?

Happy and safe new year to all.

Jeff
  
Post #5732583rd Jan 2010 10:07 am
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Andy_RS2113
 


Member Since: 17 Apr 2009
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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

A percentage of Biodiesel in the fuel is a good thing - especially in this weather as it displays higher lubricity than normal diesel and so resists freezing better Thumbs Up
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Post #5732603rd Jan 2010 10:10 am
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MacLeod 313
 


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Scotland 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

My employer allows us to purchase DERV from them at their cost price, usually between 76-79p per litre, but of late it was 83p litre. It is a 80-20% Bio, 20% being Bio and mine runs fine. Its not a question whether it will run cos it will, but its the seals in the pump cannot handle it (I think).

Your D3, Your choice
  
Post #5732613rd Jan 2010 10:12 am
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pom
 


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United Kingdom 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

biod is fine as long as its been made to a good standard. What causes problems is when its not been made properly and methanol is in the solution, this eats rubber.

Pom
  
Post #5732683rd Jan 2010 10:37 am
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BrumLee
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Bonatti GreyDiscovery 3

As pom said.

We spoke to a manufacturer of a home making Bio-fuel kit that said if made correctly bio-diesel is perfectly ok for use in the Discovery 3. He said even used cooking oil if processed correctly was also ok to use.

So it seems to be a matter of trusting whoever processes the fuel that is the main problem Confused
  
Post #5732783rd Jan 2010 11:01 am
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caverD3
 


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Australia 2012 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

LR say no. So if under warranty you run the risk of of problems if claiming for a fuel issue.
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Post #5733803rd Jan 2010 1:32 pm
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NJF
 


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Several biodiesel discussions here: http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/search.php?mode=results Thumbs Up
  
Post #5733903rd Jan 2010 2:15 pm
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Graydisco3hse
 


Member Since: 14 Jul 2015
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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

I make my own Biodiesel and have now done 40000 miles in my 2000 TD5 Discovery with no problems. So all the comments from people saying its not possible to use Biodiesel in a TD5 obviously havnt tried it. The injectors have been fine and there is only one fuel pump which is in the fuel tank and only cost £50 on ebay. I will also be using Bio in my 2008 D3 once its on the road.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

That's an odd 1st post, on a nearly 6 year old thread
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Post #15558754th Nov 2015 1:48 pm
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Graydisco3hse
 


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United Kingdom 2008 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

Well ive been looking for info on running a D3 on Bio, cant find anyone who has tried it or is willing to talk about it, so just thought Id let anyone interested, no about my experience with my TD5 as most of the comments say it is impossible to run the TD5 on it.
  
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Disco_Mikey
 


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Scotland 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Cairns BlueDiscovery 3

The general concensus with Td5 was that it has to be perfectly clean of any debris, as they tend to block the filter up, and can also cause issues with injector nozzles.

It is highly unlikely there is anyone on here running a TDV6 long term on Bio, due to the fine tolerances of the common rail system, and high repair costs, should it all go wrong
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Post #15559074th Nov 2015 3:03 pm
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Graydisco3hse
 


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Ok pal thanks for that. My Bio is 2 stage titration process and water washed. I filter it to 1 micron. The Disco 3 will be running on it long term so I will add details of sucess or problems.
  
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DDDad
 


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United Kingdom 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 GS Manual Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

The EU requires fuel manufacturers to use 7% bio-fuel in their products, IIRC, but this can be done by using more in some fuels and less in others. That's why you see blends at the pumps. Problems can arise when the ratio of bio-to-fossil increases, but the devil is in the detail, here. The details are at:
http://www.biofuelstp.eu/biofuels-legislation.html
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galwaygreen
 


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United Kingdom 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 Graphite LE Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

would suggest bio will increase chance of diesil bug in fuel that lays around for a long time..ie boat
  
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geoff.
 


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Graydisco3hse wrote:
Ok pal thanks for that. My Bio is 2 stage titration process and water washed. I filter it to 1 micron. The Disco 3 will be running on it long term so I will add details of sucess or problems.


good luck Thumbs Up
  
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