Gareth
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Won't be long now, the season of smoke from under the wheel arch, the time for temperature induced roaring noises from under the bonnet, falling fuel consumption.
Yep, won't be long before the fuel burning heaters are firing up every morning. All the new owners this summer won't have experienced it yet. Should keep the forum busy!
Mine has not been seen or heard since April.
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 29th Sep 2006 7:18 pm |
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simon
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...mine smokes every morning 
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:21 pm |
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Gareth
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What already? it not got to single figures yet around here. Can't remember the trigger temp, is it 4, 5 or 6 degrees?
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:23 pm |
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DSL
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Got my car end April so have not had the joy of the fire breathing fuel drinking pre-heater. I didn't think my mpg could get much worse!!! 
Still with all this global warming we are bound not to need them! 
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:23 pm |
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Gareth
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From my experience, it will knock about 1 -2 mpg off the average if you do lots of short journeys.
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:28 pm |
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DSL
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That's my wife's TDV6 auto down to high teens as she does a lot of cold runs up hills (in the car, she is not that daft to do that on foot!!!). Still gotta keep OPEC happy!!! 
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:31 pm |
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Gareth
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At least the cost of derv is coming down. Saw 89 ppl today.
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| 29th Sep 2006 7:54 pm |
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disco
Member Since: 28 Jul 2006
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Go on then - tell the newbies what to expect
Please...... 
I've had the farts - what's next?
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:06 pm |
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simon
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NOOOO !
Let them find out and start a few hundred threads in panic  
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:14 pm |
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disco
Member Since: 28 Jul 2006
Location: UK
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You don't buy a Landrover if you panic - remember I had one that the brakes failed. A little smoke can be accommodated i'm sure. 
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:21 pm |
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Gareth
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OK, if the air temp is 5 degrees or below, and the coolant temp is less than 75 degrees, the Webasto fuel burning heater Known as an FBH, will fire up when the engine is started.
It makes a faint roaring noise when it fires up, and emits deisel fumes and smoke from the small pipe at the front edge of the front left wheel arch. When you first see this it is easy to think that something is wrong, but it is perfectly normal.
It also sometimes makes smells in the cabin if the fumes get to the aircon - there is a TSB to stop this happening! and it shoud have been done on the enhancement program.
The heater will continue to run for a couple of minutes after shutdown, again nothing to be alarmed about.
The heater is in the front left hand corner of the engine bay, behind the headlamp. It looks like a black and silver sandwich box and has a small exhaust and silencer.
Its function is to help the engine warm up quicker on cold mornings, and to maintain coolant temp when the weather is very cold. It is very effective and the warm up on a frosty morning is very quick indeed.
The general effects of cold weather (thicker oils etc) and the heater will shave a bit off your fuel consumption. More short journeys equal even more fuel used. You cannot disable the heater to save fuel, in fact it saves more fuel than it uses by getting the engine up to operating temperature, and keeping it there.
In the early days, we were blessed with the ability to pre program an auto start on the FBH at a preset time, it was in the settings menu, but it never worked properly and Land Rover never intended it to be there, so the function is now removed from early vehicles with the enhancement update.
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:24 pm |
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Gareth
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Ooops sorry Si missed your post, never mind, they'll still ask!
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:25 pm |
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disco
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I'm going outside to have a look 
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:28 pm |
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disco
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Where's the bonnet catch? 
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:29 pm |
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Gareth
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Er Mr Disco, its not cold enough yet! 5 degrees or less
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| 29th Sep 2006 8:30 pm |
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