Member Since: 08 Jan 2009
Location: High Peak
Posts: 4
Brake pads, Disks and how long should they last ?
I know this a 'How long is a piece of string' type question.
BUT
I have a 57 plate D3 25 months on the road, just in for second service.
Previous problem with brake callipers not retracting pads from disk causing wear on pads.
Just been told that the pads are so low that the sensor has been destroyed and the disks are damaged, talking to LR Customer service got me the extraordinary comment 'two sets of pads in two years is reasonable' this comment suggests that the pads have a shorter life span that the service interval, to say nothing of the sensor not warning us early enough to prevent the damage to discs.
I'd really interested to hear other peoples experiences before I go into battle with the deal and LR.
Martyn
1st Feb 2010 3:00 pm
Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
Posts: 2050
Pad wear is a function of driving style and driving conditions (eg motorway or urban). I wouldn't be prepared to put a "life" on pads.
Discs, on the other hand, are commonly required to be replaced at every 2nd pad change, unless they are damaged, as yours seem to be.
Best Wishes,
PeterThe Bearded Dragon
2nd Feb 2010 3:40 am
Blobby
Member Since: 28 Feb 2009
Location: Gloucestershire
Posts: 277
Just had my first change of front and rear pads at 28k miles but clearly this mileage will vary hugely depending on how and where you drive.
Don't like the sound of "Discs, on the other hand, are commonly required to be replaced at every 2nd pad change". That's damn poor unless off-roading all the time.
Sold my D3 with 75,000 miles on the clock and still on original discs & pads.
Admittedly the low pad warning light came on a week before I traded it in!
Somehow I don't expect that the D4 pads will last as long though!
2nd Feb 2010 8:48 am
748scratcher
Member Since: 19 May 2008
Location: Brough
Posts: 214
Car is coming up to 3yrs old, Auto, done 70k and I've only had 1 set of pads front and rear in this time, all depends on your driving style and what type of driving you do.
You have got to remember that you are stopping around 2.7 tonne of metal each time you brake!
Mine went through 2 sets of pads and a set of discs in about 58K miles. Mines an auto and I also tow a big, heavy caravan for about 2000 miles a year which will have accelerated the wear a bit but I'm also very easy on the brakes and throttle and very rarely venture off-road ( ). If I can't get more than 30K from the pads when driving/braking gently, then you'd have to expect much less when tear-arsing around
If for some reason the sensor doesn't work when the pads are thin enough to trigger a warning, the discs won't last long with the resulting metal-to-metal contact. I don't trust the sensor - it's only fitted to one wheel at the back and one at the front and furthermore, will only tell you if the inner pad is worn so if pad wear is uneven for any reason - well, you work it out! Use the old Mk1 eyeball to gauge pad wear and you shouldn't go wrong.Now an ex-D3 owner after 7 happy years. Miss the car but not the big bills
2nd Feb 2010 8:54 am
astonbuilder
Member Since: 29 Sep 2006
Location: MIDLANDS
Posts: 8056
Don't know history before I bought it but my 07 XS Auto is 33 months and 33k miles old and had new discs and front pads fitted yesterday. I was suprised it needed discs at such, relatively, low mileage
2nd Feb 2010 9:14 am
mun
Member Since: 23 Mar 2008
Location: West Berkshire
Posts: 63
Hi, I have an auto that's 4.5 years old and I have just replaced the front and rear discs and pads after 31k. I thought that was pretty good considering I do a lot of short trips.Bonatti Grey HSE 2.7TDV6
2nd Feb 2010 9:20 am
geoff.
Member Since: 24 Jan 2010
Location: West kent
Posts: 8531
reading above looks like i,ve not done to bad 77k and just replacing pads & disc,s all round on my d3
2nd Feb 2010 10:08 am
2DISCO3ORNOT
Member Since: 27 Apr 2009
Location: at sea
Posts: 1209
I have an 08MY and the discs are just about shot she had 16K on the clock when I bought her, I have her at 22 now and probably wont make it to the second service without changing the pads and discs!
She must have been driven pretty hard, its a heavy old bus and round town she takes soem stopping.
2nd Feb 2010 10:15 am
BrianT
Member Since: 17 Nov 2009
Location: Ayrshire
Posts: 2069
As above,Idont know the history of my 54 plate 5 yearold D3 with 88,000 on the clock,bought it in Nov 09 with 82.000 on the clock and the pads were ready for being changed.
I have changed the rear pads at the moment to keep me going while i order a set of front and rear cross-drilled discs with kevlar pads.
I have it on good authoritry that this set-up does not improve braking performance but does drastically reduce brake dust MY 16 Landmark Santorini Black
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2nd Feb 2010 10:18 am
martynb
Member Since: 08 Jan 2009
Location: High Peak
Posts: 4
Thanks everyone, seems like things are not as unusual as I had though given your collected experiences.
I am still surprised that LR cant spec break parts that are more up to the job, we run a number of HGVs and Tractors and don't see anything like the issues with wear and tear as we do with the D3, and we are doing lots of heavy breaking with up to 40 tonnes.
The brake pad warning light has just come on on my 07 at 27k miles.
One of the rear calipers has been 'stiff' with accompanying squeal until freed off and lubed with copper slip.
Are the pads part of the third service as the car is booked in next week along with its first MOT?
I think disks & pads have become a cash cow for garages as they are easy to do make a reasonable amount of money and customers find it hard to challenge as it is pointed out they are a safety item.
My van had all the disks & pads changed out in 2008 for the MOT. Imagine my suprise when I was told the disks & pads needed to be changed at the next MOT when the van had only done 4.5k miles. I politely reminded the garage they had been replaced less than a year ago and should be replaced under warranty.....
Are there any recommendations for pads if they are not part of the service or is the best bet to get in touch with TLO for some L.R. replacements?Club N.E.R.D.s
Pads are not part of service, but i am sure they will tell you they need dooing and give you a suitable price
There are many posts on here on the subject & what people have used.
I was quoted £400 for mine (all round). I ordered parts from TLO & did them myself (£120)
The job is fairly easy for anyone who has worked on a car before but you do need a decent jack & stands tho as the D3 is heavy!!
You can also try 10forcash if you dont fancy the job yourself Cheers Ian
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). If I can't get more than 30K from the pads when driving/braking gently, then you'd have to expect much less when tear-arsing around 
