willh92
Member Since: 15 Jan 2018
Location: Northamptonshire
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Sorry to dig this up, but I can't see any of the photos posted after having read all 42 pages!
My D3 is an 05 plate so would presumably be fitted with the oil pump part number: 1348651 as VIN is 5Axxxxxx.
Anyone got a pic of this type oil pump vs. the MY07 style that seems to have the most failures?
Also vs the newer beefed up version?
Belts on mine were replaced a year and 6k miles ago but no receipt detailing oil pump being done (i've just purchased the car).
Is there a way of checking which oil pump is fitted without removing everything?
Best Regards,
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 13th Jun 2018 10:21 am |
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PJW1952
Member Since: 09 Apr 2018
Location: Haverfordwest
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Hi Just to inform you that my D3 had new belts changed on 05/10/2018. On Monday 04/02/2019 as I pulled up onto my drive a clanking noise appeared. I tuned it off immediately, AA came out to check and said it was belt failure. it was then taken back to the garage that fitted the new belts. It was found that the belts were not the cause of the breakdown but a crack in the tensioner block which failed. Now waiting a engineer report from Land Rover and see where I go from here.
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| 6th Feb 2019 11:39 am |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Well they might have over tighten the belts to make the tensioner break away from the oil pump casing, which if you read this whole post thats the big issue.
I will not do a set of belts if the owner does not want a new style oil pump fitted, its just not worth the risk now.
Flack 
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| 6th Feb 2019 11:45 am |
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gearmuncher
Member Since: 30 Oct 2018
Location: Woodley
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PJW1952 wrote:Hi Just to inform you that my D3 had new belts changed on 05/10/2018. On Monday 04/02/2019 as I pulled up onto my drive a clanking noise appeared. I tuned it off immediately, AA came out to check and said it was belt failure. it was then taken back to the garage that fitted the new belts. It was found that the belts were not the cause of the breakdown but a crack in the tensioner block which failed. Now waiting a engineer report from Land Rover and see where I go from here.
What vin range is your D3
Part no: 1348651,( still a currently sold part). upto 6a999999. No reported failures.
Part number: LR002465, (superceeded to LR013487) 7a000001 to 8a457085.... Has anyone had any fail in this chassis range?
Part number LR007131, ( superceeded to LR013487) 8a457086 to 9a508509.... I have checked & both failures I have seen fell in this chassis range.... 50-60,000 miles, never had a belt change. Both 57 plates
Part number LR007798 (superceeded to LR013487) 9a508510 to 9a510121.. Has anyone had any fail in this chassis range?
Part number LR013487 9a510122 on, inc 3.0. seems like the solution to 7a/8a/9a models?
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| 6th Feb 2019 4:19 pm |
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Triple Disco
Member Since: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Tewkesbury
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So had the dreaded cam belt tensioner failure (oil pump casing fracture) on 07 D3 (110000 miles), so the question is, is it worth fixing, I have had the car from new its generally in good condition, just spent best part of a grand on suspension refresh, probably worth between £5-6000 if it was going. If I look at just buying another Disco really need to spend 20K plus to get a reasonable mileage D4.
I like the fact the car is older and has very little value so not so worried about damaging etc.
I have a few questions
1. Has anyone got away with just replacing the heads?
2. What are NWS reconditioned engines like?
3. Anyone know of second-hand engines about?
4. The oil warning red light came on Does the failure starve the engine of oil as I do not appear to have lost any oil?
5. Does the failure causes Turbo damage?
Not sure if it makes any difference but how the car failed was travelling at 30mph, oil warning light came on, I think it went into limp home mode, basically would not accelerate so pulled over with engine still running. When I stopped the engine stalled and would not start. All this happened within 100yds of red light coming on.
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| 14th Feb 2019 7:06 pm |
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Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
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I'm not sure if that is the normal failure mode. Sounds a bit odd
1. Has anyone got away with just replacing the heads? Not really recommended.
2. What are NWS reconditioned engines like? Not recommended!
3. Anyone know of second-hand engines about?
4. The oil warning red light came on Does the failure starve the engine of oil as I do not appear to have lost any oil? Normally yes that is what the red light means.
5. Does the failure causes Turbo damage? Not normally, but maybe something else went wrong with your engine.
You can get a new/recon/exchange engine from landrover for £4000+vat + fitting with 2 year warranty. Swap all the ancillary bits over
Usually the safest option
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| 14th Feb 2019 7:14 pm |
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Mr Kington
Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Scottish Borders
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Having my belts changed and also asked for the oil pump to be replaced. Mine is a 55 plate and after checking the old one coming off it is in fact the weaker design ? slightly confused as i thought these were the good versions ? Either way a new one from AF is being put on. James favourite hobby is writing in the third person.
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| 18th Feb 2019 2:15 pm |
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stew 46
Member Since: 01 Dec 2011
Location: cornwall
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Just been updating my head on this  The vin on my new to me D3 is 6A am I safe or not -------------------------------------------------
if you cant hold on dont let go , it ill come in handy for something even if you never use it.
D3 SE 05,
110 s wagon 300 tdi SOLD
h top transit
crew cab transit
transit connect
ausa dumper, muck truck .
peljob 2.5 digger
06 L 200 crew cab
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| 19th Feb 2019 11:06 am |
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Mr Kington
Member Since: 12 Dec 2011
Location: Scottish Borders
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Mine is a 55 plate and has the original engine. Original oil pump and it had the weaker casing on it. Not sure if this helps or not James favourite hobby is writing in the third person.
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| 19th Feb 2019 11:36 am |
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stew 46
Member Since: 01 Dec 2011
Location: cornwall
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Belts were done 35k miles ago 5 years ago so I’ll start looking in to getting it sorted -------------------------------------------------
if you cant hold on dont let go , it ill come in handy for something even if you never use it.
D3 SE 05,
110 s wagon 300 tdi SOLD
h top transit
crew cab transit
transit connect
ausa dumper, muck truck .
peljob 2.5 digger
06 L 200 crew cab
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| 19th Feb 2019 12:10 pm |
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RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
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not on a D3 but a D4 3.0 SDV6 (8 Speed)
just had the belts changed by land rover, and 2 days later running really bad and rattly, stopped and recovered to the main dealer that fitted the belts and they have said one of the cam belt tensioner bolts had snapped (they are replacing at their cost)
what other possibly damage could have been caused? garage have said no further damage other than bolt but do i trust them ??
engine didnt stop or go bang, just noisy. I stopped as normal, and the recovery guy started it to listen for a couple of minutes only, still no bang.
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| 10th Sep 2019 12:58 pm |
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gearmuncher
Member Since: 30 Oct 2018
Location: Woodley
Posts: 143
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I cannot see how the engine will run if the cam belt tensioner bolt has snapped.
strange wording they used "one of the cam belt tensioner bolts" there is only one tensioner bolt and only one cam belt tensioner, there is an cam belt idler also one bolt.
maybe they mean the high pressure pump belt tensioner at the back of the engine, I am not sure if the engine will run if there is no tension on that belt, but it will not do damage to engine, except by the tensioner rattleing about in the belt cover. I think the D4 HPP is timed to the crank shaft unlike D3, so would run rough.
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| 10th Sep 2019 2:40 pm |
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RogB
Member Since: 15 Jun 2018
Location: Mansfield
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ill have to ask more when i pick it up but thats what the service desk receptionist said to me over the phone.
im thinking that it snapped inside the mount, with only a few threads left hanging on, hence why it didnt fail completely as there was still just about enough tension on the belt left. Another few miles and the bolt head could have worked out releasing all tension and killing the engine
im only about 40% mechanically minded so didnt/dont know whats involved with changing the belts on a D4. The last one i did was on an old Vauxhall Calibra 
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| 10th Sep 2019 2:54 pm |
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aja4x4
Member Since: 14 Apr 2019
Location: Westbury
Posts: 2459
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Or it could be somebody left the tensioner bolt loose.
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| 10th Sep 2019 6:16 pm |
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