Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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I will not do the belts on the early ones unless they have the pump changed now, as there are to many of the older ones beginning to fail, its just not worth it.
Flack 
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XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
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So,
My MY05 with 87k on the clock, and dealer serviced/replaced belts in 2012.
Not by me; only got her 8 weeks ago.
Was planning belt replacement next year, but am I being ambitious?
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| 21st Mar 2018 1:41 am |
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Windermere
Member Since: 06 Mar 2018
Location: Swindon
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Hi Just checking on this one as have spoken to a 4x4 specialist and he tells me that you don't need water pumps changed at same time as belts as they are completely separate on these vehicles? Correct or not, sounded knowledgeable
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:07 am |
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200TDi
Member Since: 30 Dec 2012
Location: Annan/Portsmouth
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unlike the important oil pump the water pump is separate to anything around it Pete
1965 S2a with Galv Marslands Chassis - Sold (BIG mistake)
1993 200TDi GS Green 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1993 200TDi GS Grey 7 Seat manual - Sold To Defender Owner to Use Engine
1999 TD5 GS Blenheim Silver 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1999 TD5 GS Oxford Blue 7 Seat Auto - Sold
1999 TD5 ES Epsom Green 6 Seat Auto - Sold
2007 D3 2.7 TDV6 XS Java Black 7 Seat Auto
1999 Swift Classic Coronette
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:23 am |
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Discogaz
Member Since: 17 Mar 2014
Location: Bracknell
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Not necessary to change water pump but for what they cost, you may as well.
Most of the cost of a belt change is in the time/labour so if a water pump fails, then you have almost the same amount of labour to access it so while the front of the car is stripped. may as well change while you can easily get at it.
Good practice would be to change the oil/water pump at every belt change as the car would appreciate increased oil and water flow that you get from a new pumps.
Just my opinion so don't shoot me down.
Gary
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:25 am |
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Windermere
Member Since: 06 Mar 2018
Location: Swindon
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Thanks
Having whole lot done with someone who knows what they are doing for £885 for the lot. I assume that's quite good.
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:26 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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There are 3 belts. Timing, Auxilliary drive, and hp fuel pump drive. Auxilliary belt is the front of the engine, and runs off the crank pulley, driving the alternator, water pump, power steering, aircon and cooling fan.
Your probably confusing the aux belt with the timing belt change. But as you have to remove the aux belt to change the timing belt, you may as well change the water pump. I don’t think it’s expensive.
Make sure all the bolts are in the water pump after a belt change, because I’ve read stories about a bolt getting missed and the pump falling off!
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:27 am |
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200TDi
Member Since: 30 Dec 2012
Location: Annan/Portsmouth
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PO of mine had the water pump fall off after belt change, water pump bolt undone in error as close to timing belt cover bolt Pete
1965 S2a with Galv Marslands Chassis - Sold (BIG mistake)
1993 200TDi GS Green 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1993 200TDi GS Grey 7 Seat manual - Sold To Defender Owner to Use Engine
1999 TD5 GS Blenheim Silver 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1999 TD5 GS Oxford Blue 7 Seat Auto - Sold
1999 TD5 ES Epsom Green 6 Seat Auto - Sold
2007 D3 2.7 TDV6 XS Java Black 7 Seat Auto
1999 Swift Classic Coronette
2019 BMW X1 AWD Auto - SWMBO's Car
IID Tool BT
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| 21st Mar 2018 11:52 am |
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Bushwanderer
Member Since: 27 Nov 2007
Location: Northern Rivers, NSW, Australia
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Ditto. The Bearded Dragon
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| 22nd Mar 2018 1:55 am |
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XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
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I've been looking around, but can't find.
Was there ever a TSB relating to the oil pump?
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| 22nd Mar 2018 9:00 am |
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Gareth
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Member Since: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Bramhall
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No tsb, or Ssm, or any recognition or explanation as to why the design was changed from LR.
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| 22nd Mar 2018 9:35 am |
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XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
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Wow.
Speaks volumes.
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| 22nd Mar 2018 11:09 am |
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Windermere
Member Since: 06 Mar 2018
Location: Swindon
Posts: 36
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I am having the oil pump changed but have researched everywhere and i cant find one example of an 05 failing on the oil pump as the recall was for later models. Its not unusual for a car manufacturer to be offered a cheaper part and then change it, so that could have easily happened from 05 to 07 where the issue begins. So who has an 05 that had oil pump casing failure?
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| 24th Mar 2018 10:23 am |
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NJSS
Member Since: 06 May 2009
Location: Catherington, Hampshire.
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Windermere you say "the oil pump ...recall was for later models".
Could you post a copy of the recall or a link to it please?
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| 24th Mar 2018 12:55 pm |
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200TDi
Member Since: 30 Dec 2012
Location: Annan/Portsmouth
Posts: 282
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as I understand it LR deny there's a problem with the pumps so there won't ever have been a recall? Pete
1965 S2a with Galv Marslands Chassis - Sold (BIG mistake)
1993 200TDi GS Green 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1993 200TDi GS Grey 7 Seat manual - Sold To Defender Owner to Use Engine
1999 TD5 GS Blenheim Silver 5 Seat Manual - Broken
1999 TD5 GS Oxford Blue 7 Seat Auto - Sold
1999 TD5 ES Epsom Green 6 Seat Auto - Sold
2007 D3 2.7 TDV6 XS Java Black 7 Seat Auto
1999 Swift Classic Coronette
2019 BMW X1 AWD Auto - SWMBO's Car
IID Tool BT
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| 24th Mar 2018 1:14 pm |
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