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grob1971
 


Member Since: 21 Aug 2020
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Switzerland 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3
cold start - Engine Sytem Fault & Special Programs Off

Hi All,

I need some expert advise:

The vehicle is a 2008 Discovery 3 with DPF. DPF was fully cleansed a couple of months ago as we had the DPF full message on the screen – after cleansing all error messages gone.

Now, when the weather got colder Engine system fault came up, actually limp mode and special programs off message. Error codes are:

-UNKNOWN-00 (2F)
-UNKNOWN-00 (6C)

I think - based on Disco3.co.uk information - the first is related to EGR. Both EGR's physically attached to the engine, but software patch was applied.

It comes up when the engine is cold – at cold start.

If I restart the entire car with Gaptool it clears the car and no errors. Even yesterday no engine system fault after starting the car.

Earlier I had a FBH error - it did not want to start, but this error was gone after some magic with the gaptool.

Battery voltage: it was 11.8V when when fired the engine then it went up to 13.x V.

Any help will be appreciated.

Robert
  
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ds23man
 


Member Since: 19 Jan 2013
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Netherlands 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Battery, alternator or both.
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Leon
 


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Would suspect battery.
  
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TheWojtek
 


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Poland 2006 LR3 4.4 V8 SE Auto Chawton WhiteLR3

Yupp, same thing with dad's L319, battery replaced, problem gone.
 Wojtek
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L320: mine 
 
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grob1971
 


Member Since: 21 Aug 2020
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all, thanks for the hints. will give a try and get back with the results....
many thanks again and happy holidays for everyone....
  
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grob1971
 


Member Since: 21 Aug 2020
Location: Zug (ZG)
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Switzerland 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

Based on Robbie’s guide I made some further investigation.

Fully charged the battery; after the car went to sleep, measured the following values:

* when, the car was not locked the power usage was ~ 9-10mA
* when the car was locked it went up to ~ 14-15mA

These measures were performed a couple of times, will receive a clamp meter tomorrow and will repeat the process.... Both values are under the threshold of 25mA so I assume no power drain.

Anyway, I ordered a new battery - 100AH 900A EXIDE....

Earlier I had some issues with my Webasto - it did not want to start; with GAPTool i could start it - not sure whether it might have had any impact on cold start ? Any opinion ?
  
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