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Red Merle
 


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Cost increase on D5 over D4.

While playing with the configurator for the Defender, I thought that I might see how much my last (very last of the line) D4 HSE Luxury has risen in price compared to the nearest equivalent new D5.

A lot of the equipment that was once standard had been relegated to the cost option list, while the standard fit RSE has now disappeared altogether. Moving production to a low cost country might have helped too.

The cost increase, once everything but the RSE had been put back? 33%.

The equivalent cost increase on the Fatty, putting once standard items back and adjusted to the same time period, is 19%.

I realise that cars, in general, have increased in price pretty savagely over the last 3 years, with probably a lot more to come over the next 3 years, but this is still a surprise.
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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DG
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I'd like to see the spec list side by side Whistle
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I’d prefer comparing an L322 to L405 as the FFRR has shot up in price new v old.
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Red Merle
 


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DG wrote:
I'd like to see the spec list side by side Whistle


What sort of thing would you be looking out for to compare?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Red Merle
 


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J77 wrote:
I’d prefer comparing an L322 to L405 as the FFRR has shot up in price new v old.


I’ve not got access to L322 pricing and specs to do that comparison. Have you? Thumbs Up
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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LT
 


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Whilst I never once used the RSE in the two D4 Landmarks I owned, I'm a bit surprised it's not even an option on the D5.
 2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography 
 
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DG
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Red Merle wrote:
DG wrote:
I'd like to see the spec list side by side Whistle


What sort of thing would you be looking out for to compare?


Pretty much everything tbh
 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021  
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kajtzu
 


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LT wrote:
Whilst I never once used the RSE in the two D4 Landmarks I owned, I'm a bit surprised it's not even an option on the D5.


One would assume it’ll go the way of the dodo and in-flight entertainment... people use tablets.
  
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Not sure what D5 HSE Lux RM is looking at as RSE is standard

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The standard Rear Seat Entertainment System provides two 8" screens built in to the rear of the front headrests. The system comes with two pairs of WhiteFire® digital wireless headphones and HDMI, Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) and USB connections


https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/disco...index.html
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J77
 


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Red Merle wrote:
J77 wrote:
I’d prefer comparing an L322 to L405 as the FFRR has shot up in price new v old.


I’ve not got access to L322 pricing and specs to do that comparison. Have you? Thumbs Up


I’ll probably have a brochure somewhere. I’ve still got my D3 brochure, from the days when you could get a Disco sub £30k Laughing
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Pelyma
  


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It’s a conspiracy Laughing
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DS3 TDV6 HSE- Silver with Alpaca (new one) Gone
D4 HSE Lux - Montalcino Red Gone
Porsche Cayenne V8 Diesel S 
 
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Red Merle
 


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DG wrote:
Not sure what D5 HSE Lux RM is looking at as RSE is standard

Quote:
The standard Rear Seat Entertainment System provides two 8" screens built in to the rear of the front headrests. The system comes with two pairs of WhiteFire® digital wireless headphones and HDMI, Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) and USB connections


https://www.landrover.co.uk/vehicles/disco...index.html


Yes, you’re right there. I stand corrected Thumbs Up
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Re: Cost increase on D5 over D4.

Red Merle wrote:
While playing with the configurator for the Defender, I thought that I might see how much my last (very last of the line) D4 HSE Luxury has risen in price compared to the nearest equivalent new D5.

A lot of the equipment that was once standard had been relegated to the cost option list, while the standard fit RSE has now disappeared altogether. Moving production to a low cost country might have helped too.

The cost increase, once everything but the RSE had been put back? 33%.

The equivalent cost increase on the Fatty, putting once standard items back and adjusted to the same time period, is 19%.

I realise that cars, in general, have increased in price pretty savagely over the last 3 years, with probably a lot more to come over the next 3 years, but this is still a surprise.


Huh? I’ve gone from a 2015 D4 HSE Lux to an MY20 D5 HSE Lux. The spec of the D5 is far higher than that of the D4 without going anywhere near the options list.

The only thing the D5 is missing as standard is the FBH but the remote climate will just start the engine and will now cool the car in summer. The D4 didn’t have:

Cooled front seats
Adaptive cruise
Lane keep assist
Adaptive speed limiter
Auto high beam (was an option on the D4, standard D5)
Internet (pointless, yes)
Full control with the LR app
Remote seat fold (slightly pointless)
Reclining rear seats
A petrol engine!
Probably a load of other things.....

I paid £61k brand new with discount. The D4 HSE Lux got about as low as £52k with discount so it’s been about 20% increase Over the space of five years - not horrendous. There are pros and cons to both the 4 and 5 as has been discussed to death, in my opinion the D5 is the better car (and so it should be after 15 years of technological advancement). That the D4 can still be considered to be almost as good as a D5 goes to show how good the D4 actually was!
  
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