Member Since: 23 Mar 2018
Location: Jersey
Posts: 3
Hi, this has just happened to our fully LR serviced 2011 Discovery 4. LR have offered 20% of a £15k repair bill which is just devastating. Did you have any luck getting more and how?
23rd Mar 2018 9:31 pm
landroverlitigant
Member Since: 06 Mar 2018
Location: South
Posts: 3
Member Since: 04 Nov 2017
Location: cambridge
Posts: 3
Unfortunately, i've had no luck with Land Rover. After a lot of argument, they offered me 20% of a £19,000 bill to replace the engine.
I argued that after 23 years a loyal Range Rover owner(plus i'd just ordered a new 2018 range Rover Sport for delivery in April), and after purchasing my car new, FULL Land Rover service history and only 56,000 miles that they should have been more helpful.
They just didn't want to know, even though unofficially they are aware of the flawed engines that they produced in 2010/2011.
Needless to say, i immediately cancelled my order for the new car and i went to Porsche and bought a new Porsche Cayenne Diesel S platinum edition instead. The Porsche, although not quite as smooth and quiet as the Range Rover (almost as smooth and quiet), the performance and handling absolutely DESTROYS the Range Rover! Their loss and my gain.
25th Mar 2018 2:21 pm
Rachel
Member Since: 12 Jun 2018
Location: Wales
Posts: 3
Discovery 3/4 Crankshaft Bearing Failure
I'm new on here. Interested to know how people have got on getting a replacement engine when out of warranty? Any success stories?
12th Jun 2018 5:46 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72776
Make a coffee or open a bottle of vino, order pizza, put the cat out and search “crankshaft failure”. Some early on have got engines replaced while virtually identical cases have been told tough, go away. Most now get the latter treatment. Needs full LR service history to even get them to consider, and then it’ll be 20% at dealer rates.
Yours gone bang?
12th Jun 2018 5:54 pm
DN D3 Decade
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
Posts: 2293
LR's attitude to this absolutely sucks. If I had a high value TDV6 engined vehicle right now, I'd be selling up, never to touch the brand again (not that I ever was going to buy another LR vehicle ) ......As it happens, mine is so old now, if it goes bang, it's no big deal, I'd do similar to DSL, and break it for parts, saw up anything left, and throw it away.D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
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12th Jun 2018 6:31 pm
Rachel
Member Since: 12 Jun 2018
Location: Wales
Posts: 3
Researching for a friend who’s run out of energy. Can see that one chap did get a replacement.
12th Jun 2018 6:37 pm
marian
Member Since: 02 Oct 2016
Location: Lower Austria
Posts: 84
It's not just that LR does not replace engines on their expense.
What makes it even worse is the exorbitant price they ask for for a replacement engine.
They should at least offer replacement engines for no-profit price.
Land Rover was my dream car when I was young but I will not buy LR again.
Not because one engine was poorly designed but because LR attempts to cash on it.
12th Jun 2018 6:42 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
But you can get a replacement TDV6 from JLR for under £4k with a full two year warranty?Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
12th Jun 2018 7:10 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6568
I guess that’s for the 2.7 liter TDV6 and short engine assembly only?
The D4 3.0 liter TDV6/SDV6 should be a bit more expensive....?
12th Jun 2018 7:30 pm
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
Yes to the 2.7, but it is a bit more than the old 'short engine'. Injectors etc have to be swapped over, but (for example) it comes with new glow plugs.
The 3 litre is still eye-watering compared to this however.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
12th Jun 2018 7:36 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72776
DN wrote:
As it happens, mine is so old now, if it goes bang, it's no big deal, I'd do similar to DSL, and break it for parts, saw up anything left, and throw it away.
And if done properly you’d get a lot more out of her than I did. And join Club Disco Stripper in the process.
12th Jun 2018 8:39 pm
DN D3 Decade
Member Since: 24 Jun 2006
Location: W.London.
Posts: 2293
D3 owned from new, P017 brake recall, BAS FBHIC, new FBH, LR013487 oil pump, new water pump. RRS front lower suspension arms. New suspension compressor/ relay. New Denso alternator. CuNifer rear brake pipes. New GKN rear propshaft. New HPFP belt & tensioner. New A/C Condenser.NO WARRANTY for many many years.
12th Jun 2018 8:44 pm
XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
Posts: 597
Just curious, but with the number of issues relating to the crankshaft and oil pump casing, why hasn’t there been some sort of collective legal challenge?
The SSM71816 advisory alone should mean that where crankshaft failure is the issue,
Quote:
caused mainly by incorrect location of the main bearing shells during assembly
Then clearly the engine was never fit for purpose.
The appropriate course of action should have been for LR to recall all the engines and replace them, but as they failed to do that it is not unreasonable to expect them to remedy the situation where a crankshaft does infact break as a result irrespective of whether the car has a complete dealer service or not; I say that as the issue is not related to the level of servicing, but rather an intrinsic Fault with the build of the engine that means it was always destined to fail regardless of service.
My thoughts, anyway.
12th Jun 2018 9:23 pm
Rachel
Member Since: 12 Jun 2018
Location: Wales
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......As it happens, mine is so old now, if it goes bang, it's no big deal, I'd do similar to DSL, and break it for parts, saw up anything left, and throw it away.
