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Obvious question but what age/mileage?
6th Sep 2018 7:21 pm
grumpygit
Member Since: 06 Sep 2018
Location: UK
Posts: 2
Apologies, it is a 2011 with just over 100k miles. Bought from a main dealer, always serviced by the same main dealer.
6th Sep 2018 7:26 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
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6th Sep 2018 7:29 pm
jeeptj
Member Since: 22 Jun 2018
Location: Washington
Posts: 34
Well Friday evening my crankshaft snapped
I will say I thought it would of sounded worse but was all over and done with within a split second.
Car had just flew its Mot the day before and failed with no warning whatsoever.
57 plate 171500 miles full history.
17th Sep 2018 6:16 am
DiscoJeffster
Member Since: 27 Feb 2016
Location: Perth
Posts: 204
I’d have liked to have thought once you got to that sort of mileage you were good. I guess while I’m worried as I’m coming close to that (I’m at 255,000km) they die anywhere from next to no miles to max miles so I guess it’s still luck of the draw.
Why can’t they just wear out progressively rather than implode.
17th Sep 2018 11:52 am
sasdiscos
Member Since: 22 Feb 2013
Location: Northants
Posts: 885
Need to get rip off britain involved or something like, bring land rovers poor customer service into the public eye!
SteveYou remind me of a younger me, not much younger mind...perhaps even a little older!
17th Sep 2018 4:43 pm
RodBarber
Member Since: 01 Apr 2020
Location: High Wycombe
Posts: 2
My Disco expired 3 weeks ago with what has been diagnosed as a broken crankshaft. Repairs underway as I write this courtesy of a local specialist.
What has come to light is a number of recent catastrophic engine failures in our locality on a variety of cars due to what has been suggested as petrol in the diesel purchased at a local supermarket filling station.
Anybody else had any experience of this issue?
1st Apr 2020 1:58 pm
G3Z
Member Since: 16 Dec 2018
Location: South Wales
Posts: 536
DiscoJeffster wrote:
I’d have liked to have thought once you got to that sort of mileage you were good. I guess while I’m worried as I’m coming close to that (I’m at 255,000km) they die anywhere from next to no miles to max miles so I guess it’s still luck of the draw.
Why can’t they just wear out progressively rather than implode.
I thought the ‘death zone’ for these cranks were the 150,000-200,000 miles? If your past that, then you should be fairly safe by then? From what a Land Rover Tech told me.
I’m on 193,000...wish me luck.. creeping towards that green zone.
Think the “Death Zone” is upwards of zero miles, there’s a few around upwards of 25k.
Seems you roll the dice every time you turn the key/press start.
1st Apr 2020 3:34 pm
Peakwayfarer
Member Since: 25 Apr 2016
Location: Uk
Posts: 434
Mine failed at 20k miles and nearly two and a half years old, fortunately still under Land Rover manufacturers warranty, and needed a complete new engine and turbos.
From what I could find there appears to be two main bands 20k to 40k miles and then 130k to 180k miles, but it was only by looking at failure mileages on the web
Still not confident, just gone through the first band.
1st Apr 2020 6:36 pm
JackNorris
Member Since: 06 Jul 2012
Location: Beds/Bucks Border
Posts: 1877
I thought D4 was more prone to this than the D3?MY2023 Discovery 5 R-Dynamic 3.0
MY2020 Discovery 5 Landmark 3.0 - SOLD
MY2005 Discovery 3 V8 4.4 HSE - SOLD
MY2019 Discovery 5 SE 3.0 - LR Replaced !
MY2005 Discovery 3 S 2.7 - SOLD
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1st Apr 2020 7:37 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
blackdog1 wrote:
All bad news, my d4 is the last l/r that I will own, I have it to tow a caravan, another few years van will be left on site in Spain and I will return to Ford
“...return to Ford.” ...to the company that co-designed and built the engine, then supplied it to LR, in the first place!
My own bitter experience of Ford after sales “support“ is that it’s about as bad as after sales support can possibly get and I wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole.2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
19th Apr 2020 5:53 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
RodBarber wrote:
My Disco expired 3 weeks ago with what has been diagnosed as a broken crankshaft. Repairs underway as I write this courtesy of a local specialist.
What has come to light is a number of recent catastrophic engine failures in our locality on a variety of cars due to what has been suggested as petrol in the diesel purchased at a local supermarket filling station.
Anybody else had any experience of this issue?
When you say “catastrophic engine failures”, what specific problems have been reported?2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
My understanding of running with diesel contaminated by petrol:-
Quote:
There are several problems caused by unleaded petrol in a diesel engine fuel system. Firstly, unleaded petrol does not have the same lubricating qualities as diesel fuel and this means that if you try to run a diesel fuel pump with unleaded petrol in it, then there is no lubrication where there is metal to metal contact of components inside the pump body and this leads to components grinding against one another and producing small fragments of metal which further contaminate the petrol. These small, sharp fragments of metal then work their way through then fuel system of the vehicle causing further damage to other components and potential blockages.
The next detrimental property of unleaded petrol is that it acts as a solvent and can damage fuel system seals which often cannot be replaced without replacing the entire component affected.
Ultimately the small metal particles in the fuel will block the diesel engine injectors, thus starving the engine of any fuel at all.
A friend who misfuelled his diesel LR had the fuel tank, all fuel lines, HPF, LPF, injector rails & all injectors +++ replaced by his insurers at considerable expense.
Interesting that you say the problem came from a local supermarket filling station - this happened some years ago locally, and those whose vehicles were affected were compensated.Am I Gammon or Woke ? - I neither know nor care.
2016 Discovery 4 Landmark
2011 Mercedes Benz SL350 (R230)
1973 MG B GT V8 - 3.9L John Eales engine, 5 speed R380 gearbox, since 1975.
1959 MGA roadster - 1.9L Peter Burgess Engine - 5 speed gearbox
Past LRs - Multiple FFRs, Discos & a Series I - some petrol, some diesel,
none Electric or H2 fuel cell - yet.
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