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D4 7 years service questions
Hi all!
I have a LR Discovery 4 SDV6, registered in Jan 2014 (63 reg) with approx 68k miles
It approaches the 7 year service at end of the month, so I am gathering the information of what needs to be done.
can you please review this list and let me know what do you think (I'm not sure if I'm using the right terminology):
1. Cambelt service:
- aux belt
- cambelt + tensioner + 2x idle puleys
- HPFP belt (it's timed and at the rear of the engine, awkward to reach).
this should not require the body off.
2. My VIN is in the list of the ones affected by the split intake manifolds - is it worth doing them now or there won't be any savings due to disassembly for the cambelt change?
3. Is it worth changing the water pump as well?
4. Is it worth changing the oil pump? I think from 2014 LR used a different one - how do I know which type is mine?
5. There is a knock in the front axle - I suspect the control arms are gone, so they would need replacing as well.
6. Diff and TF oils (because why not) + a regular engine oil change + filters.
5. Is there anything else that needs to be done at this age and mileage? The gearbox oil was done a year ago.
Any input is welcome
11th Jan 2021 1:44 pm
RATA1
Member Since: 27 Feb 2020
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Hello,
I would get the cambelt done as soon as poss. given it's age.
The HPFP belt is not timed and get that done at the same time.
Neither need the body off.
Intakes, I would wait like the rest of us for them to go. I think you have 40k more to go.
Waterpump, if it isn't leaking or defective leave it alone.
No idea about the oil pump - they are different to the D3 AFAIK.
Control arms (mine knocks a bit on unpaved roads/grass) do them as and when.
Regular oil in the engine of proper grade oil and filter. I do mine every 6 months regardless of mileage in all my cars.
Diff/TF as per schedule or more often depending on your use.
Anything else? Enjoy it, get an IID tool and squirrel some money away just in case.
This is just me, loads more knowledgeable people will be along shortly In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
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1961 Series 2
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11th Jan 2021 3:29 pm
eightfoot
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sorry rear belt is timed i had my 2013 done a few weeks ago cost me 700 just for the belts only and the well experienced indi told me they loosen the body mounts to lift the body a little to get to the rear belt
they seem to have done a good job but to be honest i wont know till something goes wrong as im not going to take it apart to see IF they did both belts oh mine also has 63000 mls
i wouldnt worry about the other stuff just get them done when they need doing/go wrong my advise if your handy with spanners (as i am) dont abuse it and keep on top of the maintenance and it should go forever
dont be put off by what you read had my d3 for 6-7 yrs now still going good and had my d4 2yrs now with no probs yetplease excuse any grammer/punctuation mistakes,i'm thick,thankyou
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11th Jan 2021 4:17 pm
RATA1
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And the body does not need to come off or lifted. It is just maybe easier for them which means it will be more expensive for you.
My quotes were in the range of £600 to £1100 from indies, some wanting to change a perfectly good water pump, others not. None of them would lift the body.In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
2014 Discovery XXV
1961 Series 2
11th Jan 2021 4:24 pm
artiom
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Thank you all for replies - looks like I can skip the intake manifolds for the time being. The car is booked for service in a few weeks - anyway I don't drive it during lockdown and I have plenty of time to research everything.
As I understand it, the Disco_Mickey's post is about D3 with 2.7L diesel - the fuel pump belt is not timed there indeed. Apparently this has changed in the 3.0L diesel engine - they made the fuel pump belt timed due to changes in the fuel pump assembly.
11th Jan 2021 5:11 pm
darrind
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And the body does not need to come off or lifted. It is just maybe easier for them which means it will be more expensive for you.
My quotes were in the range of £600 to £1100 from indies, some wanting to change a perfectly good water pump, others not. None of them would lift the body.
SDV6 is Timed the TDV6 is not (DMs post is about TDV6)Must stop buying shiny toys....
11th Jan 2021 5:23 pm
RATA1
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As I incorrectly understood it the HPFP belt can be replaced without locking the front cams / flywheel like the cam belt requires - therefore is not timed in my mind.
It is notched so has some form of synch to each of the rear pulleys so synched not timed?
That's why I put not timed. Sorry if I was wrong but I am sure it still isn't to any markings.
Good job I put "loads more knowledgeable people will be along shortly" - and they did!In today's world, if you contribute something, you don't contribute enough. If you contribute nothing, you receive everything.
Flack did my 7yr service on the drive outside my house. pretty sure he didn't lift the body ... worked over the front of the engine and used mirrors IIRC.
11th Jan 2021 6:27 pm
Steamyrotter
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Re: D4 7 years service questions
artiom wrote:
I have a LR Discovery 4 SDV6, registered in Jan 2014 (63 reg)
4. Is it worth changing the oil pump? I think from 2014 LR used a different one - how do I know which type is mine?
Any input is welcome
Was wondering the same ref this?
My D4 is the same 63plate Jan14 build but slightly higher mileage....
Need to do belts later this year when the weather gets better , but unfortunately have to do water pump now as it’s making a racket!!If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
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11th Jan 2021 10:16 pm
Disco_Mikey
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And the body does not need to come off or lifted. It is just maybe easier for them which means it will be more expensive for you.
My quotes were in the range of £600 to £1100 from indies, some wanting to change a perfectly good water pump, others not. None of them would lift the body.
SDV6 is Timed the TDV6 is not (DMs post is about TDV6)
Don’t confuse the TDV6 and SDV6.
The 3.0l is timed (TDV6 or SDV6) and the 2.7l isn’t timed
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11th Jan 2021 10:30 pm
Steamyrotter
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Disco_Mikey wrote:
D4 oil pumps only need replaced when the seal leaks
Excellent
Thanks
If things were meant to be easy, then I will soon complicate them....
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Anything I say is only from my personal experience and knowledge..
I don't assume to know everything, and know there is a lot I don't know..
But then I could be talking .. O
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i had my 2013 done a few weeks ago cost me 700 just for the belts only and the well experienced indi told me they loosen the body mounts to lift the body a little to get to the rear belt
did my 7yr service on the drive outside my house. pretty sure he didn't lift the body ... worked over the front of the engine and used mirrors IIRC.
.. O
