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D5 devotees are often understandably extremely sensitive to any form of criticism of their wonderous new MPV of choice and spend a fair amount of time being highly defensive and often calling foul. Consequently, I've backed right off in in giving my own opinion.
Yet, coming onto the D3/4 forum and starting a thread with the title "The D5 is a lot better than the D 3/4" is only likely to antagonise. Why do it? Especially when there's a perfectly good D5 forum where like-minded individuals can all go and agree with one another. I wouldn't dream of going on to the D5 forum and being critical, so how could it be reasonable for a regular D5 poster to come on here and do the opposite?
7th Apr 2017 7:25 am
Discovery-Dave
Member Since: 27 May 2015
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 157
I know the threads moved on quite a bit since, but in response to the first post (this may have already been said) - I wouldn't expect anything less. LR wasn't going to bring a vehicle to market that was equal to or less capable than its predecessors - especially with the improvement in technology over the years. I don't think the gap is quite how it was first put however.
7th Apr 2017 7:42 am
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
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Red Merle wrote:
so how could it be reasonable for a regular D5 poster to come on here and do the opposite?
Report me then In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
7th Apr 2017 7:54 am
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
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Why would I want to do that? Being in the right is all the satisfaction I need.
7th Apr 2017 8:00 am
Fitzy73
Member Since: 09 Feb 2014
Location: Truro
Posts: 2407
D5 devotees are often understandably extremely sensitive to any form of criticism of their wonderous new MPV of choice and spend a fair amount of time being highly defensive and often calling foul. Consequently, I've backed right off in in giving my own opinion.
Yet, coming onto the D3/4 forum and starting a thread with the title "The D5 is a lot better than the D 3/4" is only likely to antagonise. Why do it? Especially when there's a perfectly good D5 forum where like-minded individuals can all go and agree with one another. I wouldn't dream of going on to the D5 forum and being critical, so how could it be reasonable for a regular D5 poster to come on here and do the opposite?
You've summed the comment situation up exactly like it is.
I reckon it will die down when the nevelty of new vehicles is overtaken by the realities.BREXIT - done properly.
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D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
so how could it be reasonable for a regular D5 poster to come on here and do the opposite?
Report me then
Martin has got to put a post on the D5 forum asking no, insisting that D5 posters shouldn't post in the D3/4 forum. That would make things equal.
Personally I'm not bothered that my D3 isn't as new, different or as good as something else, I've made my choice.BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
7th Apr 2017 8:10 am
dubbs
Member Since: 18 Apr 2012
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Gareth wrote:
Who says it has issues with this? Wingers photo over on Disco5 shows that they are very bright.
Oh they are very bright, almost like small lasers
I worry more about them being obscured due to being smaller plus the fact that when driving without the large rear cluster lights on they just look odd in use, they look more like fog lights and you naturally wait for the main red lense to illuminate rather than the "outriggers"
Not a big issue, just wondered if anyone knew of a smart practical reason as to why LR did it.MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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7th Apr 2017 9:12 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
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Re: Maybe...
BLFarrar wrote:
AndrewS wrote:
Red Merle wrote:
so how could it be reasonable for a regular D5 poster to come on here and do the opposite?
Report me then
Martin has got to put a post on the D5 forum asking no, insisting that D5 posters shouldn't post in the D3/4 forum. That would make things equal.
Personally I'm not bothered that my D3 isn't as new, different or as good as something else, I've made my choice.
Why? Its a forum where views are expressed and often with a bit of banter. Too many people are getting a bit to precious over this. As far as I'm concerned D5 owners should be free to post here as we are on their site.
Maybe I'll post on the D5 site why the D3/4 is better than the D5. New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
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7th Apr 2017 9:52 am
robpenrose
Member Since: 12 Jan 2016
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Posts: 2136
All a bit silly this.
I think a lot of D4 owners can see the D5 is brilliant even if not right for them.
Many D5 owners will have previously owned a D4 and know they were/are great.
I don't think it needs to be a competition which is best. Things move on, peoples needs change etc.
I say let people express their opinions freely.
If I had unlimited funds, I'm sure I would have a D5. If not prepared to spend that amount on a car at present, so I'm happy with my D4.
Current: D4 HSE
Previous: BMW Z4M Coupe
Previous: Land Rover Defender 90 CSW Td5
Previous: Land Rover Discovery Td5 ES
Exactly my feelings....BREXIT - done properly.
Right now ...We need Government - not Politics
Save the Dipstick Flagbearer-keep it simple, less likely to fail campaign-agenda items:Starting Handles, Acetylene Lamps.
Founder: Dipsticks-R-Us Inc
D3 HSE-perfectly formed, passenger friendly...has real DIPSTICK
Jag XK-but sadly no DIPSTICK...HUGE design fault
FL2 has DIPSTICK..."real comfort in rear seats"
VW Golf wondermobile (?)..has real DIPSTICK
Morris Minor..original DIPSTICK technology..and a real KEY.
7th Apr 2017 10:21 am
fat bloke
Member Since: 07 Aug 2006
Location: OXFORD
Posts: 1243
Sorry can't take that quote that the New Discovery is Brilliant ? Compared to what ? Better ?
7th Apr 2017 11:48 am
jimbg
Member Since: 19 Apr 2013
Location: UK
Posts: 478
Brilliant for those who think so, not necessarily for you?
7th Apr 2017 12:02 pm
Red Merle
Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
Unfortunately, if it becomes a free for all it can become very unpleasant, which is a shame. One person's banter, is another person's bullying and intimidation.
7th Apr 2017 12:24 pm
RRSTDV8
Member Since: 07 Apr 2014
Location: Here
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In fairness to the OP, the choice of thread title seems to be a reaction to the large number of bad comments about D5 from D3/4 owners.
I note people describing the D5 as an MPV, for example. That seems to be an attempt to belittle the new model.
Personally, I think you "drive layers" are all wrong - the best LR is the RRS. Obviously. Visiting from rrsport.co.uk
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