Member Since: 02 Feb 2008
Location: surrey
Posts: 2752
Looks good, gone a bit softer and closer to the RRS i recon, so a tough call on what model to go for in 18 months time."you cannot teach stupid people to do clever things"
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05 plate D3 HSE in Zermat- Gone
11 Plate D4 Landmark in Fuji white- Gone
08 Plate D3 Hse in Buckingham Blue- Gone
58 plate D3 HSE Silver- Gone
10 Plate D4 HSE Stornaway Grey
12th Apr 2009 9:37 pm
NJF
Member Since: 05 Oct 2007
Location: Gone
Posts: 2466
Seems like high-level rear aircon (look at the roofliner):
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13th Apr 2009 7:59 am
AndyViking
Member Since: 09 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
Posts: 269
Those roof vents are the same as the ones in my 08.5 HSE with the rear air con package.
They keep falling out if the kids turn them too much - they found that out ten minutes after I took delivery and I went mental thinking they had broken my new toy. Major apologies and ice creams when I realised the design was poor and they had not been that naughty
I agree that the two knobs either side of the gear lever look like 12V - I think the graphic printed on them is a plus and a minus sign top and bottom with an icon showing which is which inside the socket. Looks a little geeky to me - whats wrong with "12V DC"?
On the headrests, you don't get the side handles now if you buy the RSE kit from new. Real sod trying to find seat covers (even LR ones) to fit as they are all designed for head rests with the handles D3 - 2008.5MY HSE, Stornaway Grey, RSE etc - all the toys
Grabber AT3s, Smoked Sweeping Side Repeaters
D4 Steering Wheel with BBS boards
IID BT Tool - happy to help with fault codes
16th Apr 2009 1:53 pm
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
Posts: 1214
CY wrote:
CO2 down by 10% on the current TDV6 and MPG better by 9% ISTR.
That only applies to the 2.7 Auto versus the 3.0L Auto.
The 3.0 Auto is still exactly the same (mpg & CO2) as the current 2.7 manual, i.e. rubbish.
As they seem to have abandoned completely the new chassis/body integrated as was rumoured 2 years ago, and it still weighs 2.7 tonnes its no great surprise, but in this day and age I would have thought they could have done a lot better personally (well clearly they can't with the budget they have or they would have).
What I find really weird is no 3.0L manual. Yes cause I want one, but I mean from the LR perspective, if they had a 3.0L manual in the adverts they could put "fuel consumption from X to Y" and X could be a lot lower. As it stands now their D4 adverts will have the same bottom CO2 figure as the D3, which hardly looks like an improvement!
Question is, can the touchscreen control an iPod, that would justify the upgrade for sure
16th Apr 2009 4:52 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Manual gear box may be an option like it is on the current auto as standard D3's
16th Apr 2009 5:47 pm
AndrewS Tarquin of the Desert
Member Since: 06 May 2005
Location: Y...... because I can
Posts: 10438
simon wrote:
Manual gear box may be an option like it is on the current auto as standard D3's
Manual D4 is only available in a low spec 2.7In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
16th Apr 2009 9:15 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
From what we know by reading the press spec sheet and PR (which does not show / list all the options available).
We will have to wait and see.
16th Apr 2009 11:02 pm
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
Posts: 1214
The spec sheet lists the engine/gearbox combinations available as they have separate emissions and consumption figures, 3.0L/manual is not an available option. Have a look for yourself:
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Yes I saw this - I posted the pdf in the gallery myself in the first place
All I am saying is that the spec sheets does not show what available options there will be for Discovery 4.
There may well be an option to have a manual like you can today on the D3 with a standard auto box.... 'may well be' meaning there might, its possible, we don't know yet.
Of course this also means that there may not be an option of a manual gearbox.
The spec sheet we are reading today was put together for the press and not for potential purchasers, so highlights the standard mechanical spec, performance and emissions.
17th Apr 2009 11:07 am
TallPaul
Member Since: 03 Jan 2008
Location: Near Reading
Posts: 1214
Yeah fair point.
As I ranted above thought if there was a manual option (hence lower emissions, hence good press) they would have included it (in my opinion)
I am sure once the price list is released no one will care about the options list anyway
17th Apr 2009 11:21 am
Bristol Disco2
Member Since: 03 Jun 2008
Location: Bristol
Posts: 113
Maybe the new engine produces too much torque for the manual gearbox which is why it is only available as an auto box which is rated high enough to cope with the extra torque?
Hasn't the Torque on the 3.0 TDV6 increased to 600Nm??
That's a huge amount of torques!!!!!
17th Apr 2009 5:44 pm
simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 18296
Could be, but usually its a manual that is able to handle the torque better than an auto... Audi have a habit of releasing manual box high torque diesels before the auto is release.
Either way, the 3.0L is likely out of my price range unless LR Finance are doing some good deals in 18 months time.
17th Apr 2009 6:32 pm
SPOTTER
Member Since: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Adrift........
Posts: 3095
...ignoring the gear lever for a moment, those rear seats look much more sculptered than the current ones?end of an era ....... maybe a Defender when it appears.......
18th Apr 2009 10:28 am
Mounty
Member Since: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Near Basel
Posts: 762
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