John_Houghton
Member Since: 21 Oct 2009
Location: Bremen
Posts: 6
  
|
I have just got rid of a Volvo XC70 for a D4 and one thing I am missing is the Volvo fold up (into the roof) dog bars between the rear seats and the boot, does anyone know if something similar exists for the Disco ??
Thanks
John
|
 22nd Oct 2009 1:29 pm |
|
|
Bodsy
Site Sponsor
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: In the Clubhouse
Posts: 21361
  
|
It's a semi permanent install for teh dog guard. second hand around £70-100. New is about £150 ISTR.
Can be removed ina couple of minutes, but not as convenient as the roll up pretend guards  Bodsys Brake Bible
D4/D3 Remote FBH heat kits
BAS Remaps/ EGR Blank
Transmission Flush
Software updates/enabling
Clock/ SNOTM /3Flash / 4x4Info /BT Update /Service Reset/Error Codes / Gearbox Reset
See It Here
|
| 22nd Oct 2009 1:51 pm |
|
|
craig
Member Since: 08 Aug 2006
Location: Home of LR.
Posts: 2545
 
|
Only aware of two types of dog guard and they're both fixed units. The full height unit that you can get from The Large One aka Nick @ Yeovil LR or there is an aftermarket half height unit, that only covers the area from the seats to the roof, when in situ.
HIH.
|
| 22nd Oct 2009 1:51 pm |
|
|
John C
Member Since: 28 Aug 2007
Location: East Yorkshire
Posts: 3292
|
I like the fold up ones on the Volvo (and VWs), but do they stop 60Kg of dogs flying into the back of your head in an accident? 2020 SDV6 D5 HSE, Carpathian Grey +
2022 Tesla Model Y LR... almost Carpathian Grey
Previously : 2005 TDV6 SE Auto, Cairns Blue (288K) - ours for 16 years
|
| 22nd Oct 2009 2:22 pm |
|
|
John_Houghton
Member Since: 21 Oct 2009
Location: Bremen
Posts: 6
|
Thanks for the quick responses !!
I am not sure about the alternative solutions but the Volvo one was said to be safe for an "average" dog and would stop it coming through in a "normal" collision (that was said by a Volvo dealer !!) However we had a Giant Alaskan Malamute (65Kg) and a large German Shep (40Kg) in the back of our all the time so thankfully we never got to test its stopping ability
I am wondering if I keep the one from my Volvo if it could be persuaded to fit somehow ........
Cheers
|
| 22nd Oct 2009 3:07 pm |
|
|
Bodsy
Site Sponsor
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: In the Clubhouse
Posts: 21361
|
IMHO, with dogs that size, be safe for not only the dogs, but the passengers (and yourself 7 just get the right dog guard. Hopefully you would never need it, but I wouldn't want to be sitting in from when that weight comes through from the back.... Bodsys Brake Bible
D4/D3 Remote FBH heat kits
BAS Remaps/ EGR Blank
Transmission Flush
Software updates/enabling
Clock/ SNOTM /3Flash / 4x4Info /BT Update /Service Reset/Error Codes / Gearbox Reset
See It Here
|
| 22nd Oct 2009 3:10 pm |
|
|
MikeS2005
Member Since: 13 Sep 2008
Location: Midlothian
Posts: 920
 
|
Hi All
If Im right the dog guard on the volvo folds up against the roof lining and is held in place with little gas struts and was a very good system, but as the guys have said landrover dont do anything like this but if you got someone to engineer a similar system I dont see why you couldnt copy the idea.
I have the full cargo barrier and it stops my 49kg German shepard getting through but is a pain if I want to carry anything that is long as I have to dismantle it
Mike
|
| 23rd Oct 2009 10:20 pm |
|
|
MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
Posts: 10723
|
 The OEM LR Dog Guard is also branded as a CARGO BARRIER, and therefore VERY robust and heavy. To engineer something to lift the guard would not only need some serious struts and roof strengthening. It bolts to the floor/behind the seat backs and uses pressure fittings to the roof and rear windows. The roof lining also wedges the guard in.
In all, a serious strong piece of kit, to which sometimes you can purchase of ebay for a cheap price, and the fitting kit is sold seperately.
|
| 23rd Oct 2009 10:26 pm |
|
|
crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
Posts: 5011
|
I looks like some people assumed John was referring to the fold-up netting found in some cars... my old volvo had metal bars which looked easily as strong as the LR design. Because they were half height and hinged at the roof line they could fold up and out of the way when not needed. These could also be locked down to the back of the 2nd row of seats which made them very secure. (You could also move it to just behind the front row of seats making a huge cargo area if you choose) A much better design than any of the LR offerings in my opinion.
2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo
|
| 23rd Oct 2009 11:25 pm |
|
|
MikeS2005
Member Since: 13 Sep 2008
Location: Midlothian
Posts: 920
|
Hi All
If someone was to engineer one out of aluminium it wouldnt be that heavy and Volvos one was a brilliant idea and only half height as already said as for lifting a full height one it just wouldnt be possible theres not enough room or roof space to do that or the structural capability of any mounting position in the rear to take the weight of a steel one, but Im sure if you wanted to get a bespoke one made theres bound to be someone on here with the knowledge to design and build it.
As long as you were prepared to pay for it then its possible.
The OEM Full Height cargo barrier in fact has no connections at the windows so I dont know what youve got in yours, there are brace bars that sit against the forward pillar of the rear side windows and there is two connections behind the rear seats either side and two on the floor either side thats why its such a pain to get out and youve got to squeeze your rear load cover in there in front of the cargo barrier/dog guard so its not to practical for such a universal car
|
| 24th Oct 2009 9:51 am |
|
|
MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
Posts: 10723
|
I have the OEM, thats why I stated it, its very heavy n sturdy, and yes the pressure fittings are in front of the window and on the piller
|
| 24th Oct 2009 10:52 am |
|
|
Slimer
Site Moderator
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
Posts: 16295
|
MacLeod 313 wrote:....its very heavy
If you're a weak midget, fairly lightweight for anyone else  The End
|
| 24th Oct 2009 10:54 am |
|
|
MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
Posts: 10723
|
Well who's that referring too SI, me 6ft 3in.................and last time I saw YOU were considerably smaller and dweeby than moi 
|
| 24th Oct 2009 10:57 am |
|
|
Slimer
Site Moderator
Member Since: 06 Jan 2005
Location: Last Exit to Nowhere
Posts: 16295
|
I don't know what your height has got to do with anything McCloud but presumably it's not related to strength if you think the LR dog guard is heavy  The End
|
| 24th Oct 2009 11:30 am |
|
|
MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
Posts: 10723
|
Heavier than the one in SWMBO's Corsa 
I mean Heavy and in construction, size/one piece/weight IMHO does limit the use of the boot area, but why would you need to haul long loads inside a D3 with the leather upholstry, thats what the ROOF is for.
A set of roof bars will suffice with a Ebay dog guard. Job done
|
| 24th Oct 2009 11:33 am |
|
|
