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would you do it on a D4 as well?
was as no one else had suggested it..one wife.......livid
20th Nov 2010 12:36 pm
bontempi
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ArcFro wrote:
Having had D3 for four winter season by now, driven in all sorts of weather conditions (including -35 deg), I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Good advice from ArcFro. Last winter I did cold starts at -36 degrees without problems, although an electric heater is really useful.
A reasonable kitted car with:
- good winter tyres
- washer fluid and coolant mixed for cold temperatures
- battery in good condition
- warm clothing and a flashlight
- tow strap and jump start cables (for assisting non LR drivers)
should be all you need.
WRT driving lights, they are not necessary in snowy conditions, because the snow reflects the light. A Disco has the extra advantage of the lights being mounted higher than normal cars.
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21st Nov 2010 3:08 pm
grzesiul
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love that picture:
21st Nov 2010 3:15 pm
bontempi
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Ent wrote:
BTW have you got a Jetboil PCS? Really handy bit of kit for making a hot drink or warming a ready meal up with.
Good luck using a Jetboil in arctic winter conditions. The gas mix of 20% propane and 80% isobutane will not work below -5 degrees due to vapor pressure being to low. Below 0 degrees, output will be very low.
For cold weather I would recommend a kerosene or gasoline stove like the Optimus Nova or Primus Multi Fuel.
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21st Nov 2010 3:17 pm
bontempi
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grzesiul wrote:
love that picture:
Thank you grzesiul! A mild -15 degrees on that day.
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21st Nov 2010 3:20 pm
grzesiul
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I kind of miss that type of winter not really occurring in UK.... we will see what this year brings snow wise back home as go a few nice locations to drive the disco to to check it out on proper deep snow
21st Nov 2010 3:24 pm
bensaunders
Member Since: 16 Nov 2010
Location: London, UK
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bontempi wrote:
Ent wrote:
BTW have you got a Jetboil PCS? Really handy bit of kit for making a hot drink or warming a ready meal up with.
Good luck using a Jetboil in arctic winter conditions. The gas mix of 20% propane and 80% isobutane will not work below -5 degrees due to vapor pressure being to low. Below 0 degrees, output will be very low.
For cold weather I would recommend a kerosene or gasoline stove like the Optimus Nova or Primus Multi Fuel.
I use a Jetboil in the UK but Henrik's right - they're not good when it's properly cold. I've used my MSR XGK down to -48
22nd Nov 2010 6:10 pm
bensaunders
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ArcFro wrote:
Welcome to Finland Ben!
Having had D3 for four winter season by now, driven in all sorts of weather conditions (including -35 deg), I wouldn't worry about it too much.
Diesel is in northern part of Sweden and Finland by default is arctic grade (label to be found in pump) and will cope with local climate. Before first refuel of arctic grade you should have quite empty tank since already less than 5% of "summer quality" decreases significantly viscosity of diesel.
A and B roads are kept in good driving condition, you need chains only if you want to access unrated "forest roads".
Locals tend to have studded tyres on Discos but I'd be comcortable with any big manufacturers (Conti, GY, Michelin, Nokian) wintertyres. From personal experience I recommend to avoid all season tyres, you can survive with these but they require deep understanding of traction level / weight of vehicle.
Hope this helps in your preparations Ben. Hope you enjoy your stay in Finland!
Brilliant - thanks!
22nd Nov 2010 6:11 pm
bensaunders
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ad15 wrote:
ben,, is your D4 white? parked in the multi story at the ski show?
looked very 8)
It is indeed! I managed to drive right into the building the first day as they assumed I was part of the LR Experience team
22nd Nov 2010 6:13 pm
ArcFro
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Oh, now I realized that you have new 3litre engine, I do not know if it as robust in low temperatures. Why shouldn't it be?
If you have preheating option ticked, use that feature to ease cold start. In cold climate it is good to limit preheating into ½ hour, otherwise you might drain the battery. You should drive the car minimum of 30min to recharge, running engine idle is not doing the job for you. At least so LR tech told me to do...
22nd Nov 2010 8:50 pm
MWN
Member Since: 02 Aug 2007
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How come pre-heating drains the battery? As winter (and i mean proper winter) has arrived early this year I want my car to be nice & warm but I've noticed that my battery is low.
26th Nov 2010 9:36 pm
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grzesiul wrote:
I kind of miss that type of winter not really occurring in UK....
Speak for yourself, had enough of it last year!
26th Nov 2010 9:40 pm
Ronnberg
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The Disco is actually a very good car in snow - have studded tyres on mine and have yet to find a place to get stuck. You don't really need anything special - the lights are good as with all the snow it is actually very bright. The only thing I have had problems with is the Auxiliary Heater (Webasto) which packs in now and then - if this does not work your engine will run very cold. Last winter was quite cold and on two occasions I had electronic meltdowns while driving on the motorway in -25. Car electronics just die out and engine turns off - you basically just glide to the side of the road. But on both occasions the car started again and I could get home. I have started the car without the Auxiliary heater in -30 after the car has stood all night and it has always started... The local dealer said one should not run the tank down emptier than 1/4 in the winter -as the fuel intake from the tank is mounted too high so it sucks air and then you have to take the car to the dealer to make it work again. Also - you cannot quickstart the Webasto while car is running - it blocks itself and then again you need to see the dealer. Not sure if all this is true or I just have a dealer who likes to see me a lot. If I had to go up far north in the winter I would probably take a Landcruiser.... That said - I just cant stop loving my Disco - I use it for forest work in the winter and it pulls huge logs out of the forest even in half a meter of snow. On two occasions I have actually pulled my tractor out of the field with it. But - unfortunately it is a very "civilized" car that needs to be not too far away from a dealer/garage.
26th Nov 2010 11:17 pm
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Portable hot woman to explore There's one wheel on my wagon, but i'm still rollin' along, it's the cherokee, they're after me, but I'm singing a happy song
26th Nov 2010 11:59 pm
bontempi
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MWN wrote:
How come pre-heating drains the battery? As winter (and i mean proper winter) has arrived early this year I want my car to be nice & warm but I've noticed that my battery is low.
The pre heater uses an electric glow plug to ignite, a small electric pump to circulate the coolant and runs the fan to heat the passenger compartment. Webasto heaters are designed to run for approx 20 minutes to pre-heat. You need to run the engine for at least the same amount of time in order not to drain the battery.
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as no one else had suggested it..
