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Went out and gave this a go in the D4, made no diffrence what so ever if anything found the stopping distance increased wen selecting N. Tried it at various speeds but felt much better and safer whilst still in a gear. MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
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20th Jan 2013 9:23 pm
Richie63
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Was that with drive in auto or command shift
20th Jan 2013 9:29 pm
GlosBoy
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Slightly off piste but shut the HDC button be illuminated ?
Mine isnt and a to find with the shift stick in the way when you can't see the damn buttonD4 HSE - Aintree Green
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Robbie wrote:
Think the D3 has easily the best layout.
It certainly does... especially when things are happening quickly and you need the buttons to hand!
20th Jan 2013 9:58 pm
amazing
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I have used the knock into N on my old xjs as the front would lock and the rear would quite happily keep pushing you on an on and on.... on .
It was the only way to stop.
Never needed to do it in D4 but I generally dont rush up to where I must stop.
Maybe you have a snatchy brake.It is better to have and not need it then need and not have it.
21st Jan 2013 4:19 am
blue200tdi
Member Since: 23 Sep 2012
Location: Lincoln
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May I just point out that driving at the correct speed for the conditions, and reacting in plenty of time to a situation, will make putting the auto into neutral completely obsolete!
I have no trouble in my auto, the car slows down in plenty of time by just lifting off the throttle, braking only at the last few feet if I need to come to a complete standstill!You guys are gonna be busier than a test bench in a plunger factory!
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29th Jan 2013 7:59 pm
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
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We are talking emergency procedures here, not driving technique. I once absent mindedly put the D3 into park when coming up to a field gate I had to open, this was at 2/3mph, the gear lever went into park effortlessly as normal, I nearly went through the screen I stopped so fast, never done it since but it might be possible to do it in an emergency on snow, it might even be what Mrs hids4u did, not recommended and I will let someone else try it.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
29th Jan 2013 10:52 pm
jsamuelson
Member Since: 07 Feb 2011
Location: Cornwall
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Although I've never had to do it in the Disco, can confirm that knocking my Audi (with DSG) into neutral was on several occasions a front-end-saving operation...the load the engine put on the wheels even idling (eg while braking) was enough to send me sliding through roundabouts. ABS was bloody useless in the snow with the Audi, but I find LR's implementation much much better.
Once again though, with winter tyres on the Disco, it's simply epic in the white stuff, never slid more than a few feet before stopping all winter here in the Alps. If it's deep or icy, GGS, HDC and off we go.
21st May 2013 12:19 pm
euangibson
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I haven't tried this in an auto,but did a road driving course a couple of years ago,part of which involved a long session on the skidpan....the technique we were taught when first encountering a skid was both feet hard down on the brake pedal and clutch pedal at the same time......certainly stopped us quicker....have to try it in the Discovery next time there is white stuff"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to speak out and remove all doubt" ?.....what rubbish...
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21st May 2013 1:02 pm
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Tyres will also make a huge difference.
Personal experience with worn out tyres in snow to brand new ones was staggering, no horrible moments when you wonder if I will stop, despite slowing way in advance of junctions etc.
The sheer weight of the car counts against it as well, my old freeby was better in snow for stopping due to the weight difference.
Experience has also shown the all the fancy electronics in the world can't save you if the driver gets it wrong, my pride took a massive dent that day. D3 escaped with a torn mud flap, could have been much much worse.
Its that time of year again so I thought I'd comment. In Drive, I think you will quite often pull up in 3rd, or possibly 2nd, so its bound to be pulling on a bit. Engine breaking is good for slowing down in a controlled manner, the HDC is brilliant, but for actually coming to a stop nothing beats brakes on all 4 wheels... and if you still slide a bit pump a bit with your foot! (You want the wheels turning for effective breaking - not locked! Perhaps that's a reason for going down to 1st in command shift!)Lightweight Land Rovers have the quirk factor!
31st Dec 2013 11:42 pm
robbo770
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M3DPO wrote:
We are talking emergency procedures here, not driving technique. I once absent mindedly put the D3 into park when coming up to a field gate I had to open, this was at 2/3mph, the gear lever went into park effortlessly as normal, I nearly went through the screen I stopped so fast, never done it since but it might be possible to do it in an emergency on snow, it might even be what Mrs hids4u did, not recommended and I will let someone else try it.
Once did this in my 2.2 Carlton!! at 45 Mph, caused the back wheels to lock and screeched along the road for about 10 yards till I put it back in Drive,
remember when driving several different cars a week to remember when your in an Automatic!!
as you get a big surprise if you foget!! FFRR SC 4.2
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euangibson wrote:
both feet hard down on the brake pedal and clutch pedal at the same time......certainly stopped us quicker....have to try it in the Discovery next time there is white stuff
your profile states Automatic, thus no clutch peddle!!
from my understand, the replies are implying that even while braking the gear box is still pushing power to the wheels.
I can say that my unit with DSG gearbox does that, you can feel it through the controls and seat that its trying to move the car even at tick over unless not in drive (N or P)Experience is a difficult teacher, because she gives the test first and then the lesson afterwards!!!!
2nd Jan 2014 6:43 am
M3DPO
Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
Location: Notts.
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When travelling in Mud & Snow setting and you take your foot off the accelerator the brakes are automatically applied gently Don't believe me? - try it in low range in wet muddy/slippery conditions, travel at 10/15 mph and take your foot off the accelerator and you will feel/hear the ABS working.
Don't know about a manual I've got an auto.It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't.
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to find with the shift stick in the way when you can't see the damn button
