Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
Posts: 3067
Driving to/in France 2023 - Latest?
Hi all
Been a few years for me but we're ditching the airports and driving to France for a long holiday in August. Looking around the internet, the latest list I can gather is
- V5, Insurance, MOT all printed out (will have cloud copies too)
- Breakdown cover
- Hi-viz for all people, in door pockets
- Triangle
- Spare bulb kit
- UK sticker
Seems there is no need for those little breathalysers anymore and also I see not to drive in flip flops (not that I ever would)
I'm not bothering with toll tags etc as we are pretty much driving there, then back to the ferry, and that will be it for 12 months at least.
What have I forgotten?D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
27th Jun 2023 8:59 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13912
Only thing missing is a well filled wallet for fines!
Also,I'd just get a toll pass for the shear convenience. It's less than tenner per year but just so much easier.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
27th Jun 2023 9:10 am
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
Posts: 3067
On the tolls, I just thought that basically for two (ok, long) journeys it wasn't worth the faff? Can you just get one tag? I've seen a few different types mentioned. If it's literally £10 and it takes me less than half an hour to apply for one thing, I'll consider it
Just googled it and got Ulys, Tollbird, Emovis, Liber-T....... D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
27th Jun 2023 10:00 am
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
Ditto the toll pass (we use Sanef) - it can make a significant difference on a long journey, or even just when passing round a large conurbation during peak times, and allows the passenger to continue to snooze.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
27th Jun 2023 10:03 am
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72790
Plus you can stream past what seems like kms or standing traffic waiting to pay at the non tag bits, then straight through the tag bays sometimes without even stopping. Deffo worth their weight in fresh croissants and vin rouge.
End enjoy getting to France. Hope the French border dudes, both of them, are not pratting around too much.
27th Jun 2023 10:25 am
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
Posts: 3067
So it doesn't matter which toll system you have as long as you just choose one of them? Is Sanef the best one to go for?D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
27th Jun 2023 10:27 am
Moo D3 Decade
Member Since: 13 Aug 2010
Location: Wiltshire
Posts: 13912
I use Emovis but I'm sure they are much of a muchness.New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)
Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)
Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)
No longer the Old Buses original owner
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control
27th Jun 2023 11:32 am
waterbuoy
Member Since: 26 Oct 2013
Location: Argyll
Posts: 2862
I think the system works on the basis of one pass works for all, but please check/confirm that!
I drove down to Meribel and back in February and wafted through all the peages with the tag, by-passing some extensive queues at times. The other advantage is that you get all of the charges to pay in a single transaction, rather than multiple payments being made on a card or fiddling around with cash.
I have used Sanef for more than a decade, mainly because they have a UK administration centre based in Yorkshire with UK support available - not that I have needed. Our original tags were superceded a year or two ago and renewing them with current models was very straightforward.Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
Previously:
TD5 Defender 110 CSW (230k miles)
300TDi Disco 1 (289k)
4 RR Classics (300-350k each, 2 manual, 2 auto)
110 V8 CSW (220k)
S3 109 hi cap pickup (ex RN)
S2A 88 Safari SW with lpg conversion (bloody lethal)
27th Jun 2023 11:37 am
James W
Member Since: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Wirral, UK
Posts: 3067
Right then, I've just applied for a Sanef Liber-T "Bip&Go" tag which only charges €1.70 per month of use and €0 otherwise. The tag was just €10 but there was also €10 postage so €20 overall. Application took about 5 mins, good system. I had to provide an IBAN account number and sign the equivalent of a DD mandate for payment. I'm hoping that there are no hidden conversion charges at my bank end.
Thanks for the advice!
Now need to figure out where to put the tag on an L405 as I've never been able to get the M6 toll one to work and have to hold it out the window!!D4 XS, gone, much loved, never forgotten
2018 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography - Gone to someone with less sense and more time to enjoy it
2016 Toyota Hilux Invincible - Liberating experience
27th Jun 2023 12:03 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6575
Depending on where you intend to drive you might need a Crit’Air sticker.
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6575
Supposedly, in 2024 Crit’Air 2 (Euro 4 petrols, ALL euro 5 and euro 6 diesels) will be banned in greater Paris area. They have been postponing the previous (Crit’Air 3) ban at least twice already so it might not happen quite yet.
28th Jun 2023 8:58 pm
Gary_P
Member Since: 03 May 2016
Location: Kent
Posts: 1523
Applied for a Crit’Air registration in May. Car sticker only took 7 days to arrive by post from France and cost just over £4 inc postage. Very efficient. Apply online and Be ready to send a photo of your registration document.Gary
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Discovery 4 HSE 2016MY
28th Jun 2023 11:02 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6575
Same goes for Germany, in case you happen to go there.
29th Jun 2023 6:49 pm
D4mation
Member Since: 29 Jul 2011
Location: Ruralshire
Posts: 593
You need to add travel/health insurance to your list.MY12 D4 HSE Ipanema Sand
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