Both meet the required standards, but the Castrol is £7 a litre and the Morris is £3.70 a litre from a local merchant.
Anyone got any thought?
18th May 2018 4:46 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10360
If you want good value I find the granville good stuff. A3 or C3. About £18 ? on ebay
I've used the C3 most and the Engine is quiet
18th May 2018 5:00 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
Possibly wrong here but A1 used to be the top spec now its A5?
Changed about a year or so ago.
Just checked,
A/B: gasoline and diesel engine oils
ACEA A1/B1 Category is removed with the ACEA 2016 Oil Sequences. From ACEA 2012: Stable, stay-in-grade oil intended for use at extended drain intervals in gasoline engines and car & light van diesel engines specifically designed to be capable of using low friction low viscosity oils with a high temperature / high shear rate viscosity of 2.6 mPa*s for xW/20 and 2.9 to 3.5 mPa.s for all other viscosity grades. These oils are unsuitable for use in some engines. Consult owner manual or handbook if in doubt.
ACEA A3/B3 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & Diesel Engines and/or for extended drain intervals where specified by the engine manufacturer, and/or for year-round use of Low Viscosity Oils, and/or for severe operating conditions as defined by the Engine Manufacturer.
ACEA A3/B4 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & DI Diesel Engines, but also suitable for applications described under A3/B3.
ACEA A5/B5 Stable, stay-in-grade Engine Oil intended for use at extended Drain Intervals in Passenger Car & Light Duty Van Gasoline & Diesel Engines designed to be capable of using Low Viscosity Oils with HTHS Viscosity of 2.9 to 3.5 mPa*s. These Oils are unsuitable for use in certain Engines - consult vehicle-OEM’s owner’s manual/handbook in case of doubt.
Have a look on ebay for Mannol 7707 oil they do some good gear at sensible prices
18th May 2018 5:01 pm
XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
Posts: 597
Thanks both.
The oil matching tools I can find seem to suggest A5, even though the current TOPix owners manual says
Quote:
Engine oil - Diesel vehicles
Use 5W/30 oil meeting ACEA: B1 or B3.
Member Since: 22 Feb 2014
Location: Scunthorpe
Posts: 584
Buy the cheaper (but not cheap and nasty) oil and change every 7,500 miles.
Pete.IID, webasto software and workshop facility's available.
20th May 2018 9:11 pm
Bardley
Member Since: 02 May 2018
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 439
B grade is Diesel specific
The designation ‘B’ grade from B1 to B5 are for Diesel engines. B5 being the higher grade/ newer spec.
C grade oils are most notably specified for DPF engines.
A1-A5 are for petrol engines, and it’s advisable to avoid making your oil selection on this spec.
This is the European equivalent of API (US) and is more specific in what the performance of the oil actually is. A = Petrol, B = Diesel and C = Catalyst compatible or low SAPS (Sulphated Ash, Phosphorus and Sulphur).
Unlike API the ACEA specs are split into performance/application catagories as follows:
A1 Fuel economy petrol
A2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
A3 High performance and/or extended drain
A4 Reserved for future use in certain direct injection engines
A5 Combines A1 fuel economy with A3 performance
B1 Fuel economy diesel
B2 Standard performance level (now obsolete)
B3 High performance and/or extended drain
B4 For direct injection car diesel engines
B5 Combines B1 fuel economy with B3/B4 performance
C1-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 low SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C2-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible.
C3-04 Petrol and light duty Diesel engines, based on A5/B5-04 mid SAPS, two way catalyst compatible, higher performance levels due to higher HTHS.
Note: SAPS = Sulphated Ash, Phosphorous and Sulphur.
Put simply, A3/B3, A5/B5 and C3 oils are the better quality, stay in grade performance oils.2011 MY D4 HSE
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2nd Jun 2018 10:33 pm
XDAndy
Member Since: 16 Jan 2018
Location: Gibraltar
Posts: 597
Thanks!
Useful, and good to know as my local LR main dealer is using shell A1/B1 oil which I was pretty sure was obsolete.
They say that this is what she’ll sends them, even tho shell recommend other stuff
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