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Failed MOT
Well my D3 failed it's MOT today on two points
1. Front discs excessively worn on the inside - They were extremely rusty and large chunks of rust were flaking off on the vented part of the disc.
2. Excessive exhaust emmisions for a Turbo charged vehicle.
Point 1 was covered under the MOT warranty but I had to pay a £50 excess. I was also charged £63.42 for a new set of pads as they were not covered - even though they had done less than 3000 miles.
Point 2 was cured by taking the car a short run up the bypass
One of the faults I reported was excessive black smoke, they couldn't find the fault but did carry out a tune download to the ECU - still getting the smoke though.
The D3 also had its 60k service done (only done 16700 miles though) but thankfully I didn't have to pay for that as I bought a service pack when I bought my D3 - one more service left.1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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23rd Sep 2009 10:08 pm
Tawny Owl
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Excessive exhaust emmisions
Ive got my 105k service and MOT tomorrow and have the EGR'S blanked
Glad your MOT wasnt too bad
23rd Sep 2009 11:08 pm
flinty99
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Who changed your pads?
You would have thought they would be showing signs of wear just 3000 miles ago.For details on the next Kielder Safari click visit the Kielder Safari website
Sold: HSE-G4, Tangiers Orange. (one of your 5 Discoverys a day)
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23rd Sep 2009 11:12 pm
WOODY179
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The pads were changed exactly a year ago (at the last service) and as I changed the wheels then I know they were no where near as bad as the picture above.1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
23rd Sep 2009 11:18 pm
BrumLee
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Location: West Midlands
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Who did the MOT? I would have challenged the fail on the discs looking at that picture. The testers manual states:
"h. the condition and security of brake drums and discs h. a brake disc or drum insecure, cracked or excessively scored, pitted or worn"
Ask the test station for your discs and pads back as you plan to appeal to VOSA, then watch their faces drop
Got to agree with Brumlee, Discs are not part of the MOT only whether the brakes work or not.
Trev.
24th Sep 2009 2:28 pm
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You'll always get rust (and brake dust) on the outside egde of brake disks,, it's nothing to worry about. Did they measure the width of the disk as per LR guidelines?Bodsys Brake Bible
a brake disc or drum insecure, cracked or excessively scored, pitted or worn
As the brake discs were excessively worn on the inside this can only have been caused by the flaking rust as the pads operate on the outside of the discs.
The 3rd failure point was as follows
Exhaust emits an excessive level of metered smoke for a turbo charged engine [7.4.B.2]
Section 7.4.B.2 reads
Vehicles first used on or after 1 August 1979 After 6 free accelerations, the mean of the last 3 smoke levels is: for turbocharged engines more than 3.00m -11996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
24th Sep 2009 4:53 pm
WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3637
BrumLee wrote:
Who did the MOT? I would have challenged the fail on the discs looking at that picture.
No need for a challenge, that picture does not show the real damage, I had a good look at both discs and the inside was a lot thinner in places - I did try taking a photo of this but unfortunately it was too fuzzy (mobile)1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
24th Sep 2009 4:59 pm
J@mes
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Location: Bomber County
Posts: 4547
You sure they dont mean "inside" as in the face of the disc that faces the inside of the vehicle, and not actually the inside of the disc itself?2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
24th Sep 2009 4:59 pm
WOODY179
Member Since: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Chesterfield
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TSR2 wrote:
Discs are not part of the MOT only whether the brakes work or not.
Trev.
They are checked in section 3.5 for the following
g. contamination of brake discs and drums by leaking brake fluid, oil or grease.
and
h. the condition and security of brake drums and discs 1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
24th Sep 2009 5:03 pm
WOODY179
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Location: Chesterfield
Posts: 3637
J@mes wrote:
You sure they dont mean "inside" as in the face of the disc that faces the inside of the vehicle, and not actually the inside of the disc itself?
They explained it to me and it was definitely the bit in the middle (the vented part) and not the part of the discs that come into contact with the pads.1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
24th Sep 2009 5:06 pm
J@mes
Member Since: 10 Nov 2008
Location: Bomber County
Posts: 4547
I expect that they are concerned that pressure from the pads could break the disc if they had to be applied extremely hard for some reason.2014 D4 XS
2005 D3 SE - Gone
24th Sep 2009 5:11 pm
WOODY179
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Location: Chesterfield
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Possibly, Im just pleased that they were covered under the mot warranty (apart from the excess) as I didnt expect to have to replace them at such a low mileage.1996 Discovery 1 300TDI ES Biarritz Blue, sold
1999 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Rioja Red, sold
2002 Discovery 2 TD5 ES Buckingham Blue, sold
2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Adriatic Blue, sold
2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Zambezi Silver, sold
2011 Discovery 4 SDV6 HSE Nara Bronze, sold
2016 Volvo XC60 D5 AWD Lux Nav Twilight Bronze, sold
2020 Range Rover Evoque P250 First Edition, Nolita grey, sold
2023 Range Rover Evoque P300e Autobiography, Carpathian grey
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