graemesmith
Member Since: 06 Oct 2007
Location: West of Scotland
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Anybody put a Faultmate MSV onto a MY2012 D4 yet?
Was thinking of buying one but can't find any info on whether it will actually enable anything on a new D4. The Bellautos site appears to specifically excludes the MY2012 from any of their available upgrades. I am told that the hardware in the new model is quite a bit different than the previous ones so maybe the Faultmate team haven't had time to work their magic yet?
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 5th Nov 2011 7:37 pm |
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Russell
Member Since: 24 Aug 2007
Location: Kent
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Think that is correct and it may be harder now to get that info as Pete does not have a D4 has gone to an Evoque MY17 D5 1st Edition Namib Orange
MY15 D4 HSE Kaikoura Stone
MY12 D4 HSE Nara Bronze Sold and gone
MY11 D4 HSE Stornaway Grey Sold and gone
D3 S spec Silver Sold and gone
Tow bar, full length roof bars, side steps, tow bar storage unit, surround camers.
D4 camera club
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| 5th Nov 2011 8:00 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
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Unfortunately BBS don't have access to a D4 in Cyprus either 
I have spoke to them regarding this matter ... Colin's pretty sure the fault finding would be the same ... But can't be sure about CCF changes . G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 5th Nov 2011 8:05 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Hiya all.
I have a bit more info on this now.
As expected, the basics of Faults etc is the same as Pre 2012 D4's, although the Infotainment stuff on the Most BUS has changed and we will have to sort this, but that should be no biggie.
The CCF seems pretty much the same, which is great news, but it seems there is a new Software number for the 2012 on BCU and possibly a new secondary boot loader that we need to add. After which CCF editing on 2012 on vehicles should be sorted.
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| 5th Nov 2011 8:38 pm |
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Bill Wright
Member Since: 03 Nov 2007
Location: Glorious Devon
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I'm transferring my FCR from MY10 D4 to MY12 D4.
Should I apply for the new licence for my FCR when I get the vehicle in two weeks time or will the updater not include the new bits so best to wait awhile?
Bill Wright Never take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
D4 SDV6 SE Tech Kaikoura Stone MY15.
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| 5th Nov 2011 8:46 pm |
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graemesmith
Member Since: 06 Oct 2007
Location: West of Scotland
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Thanks guys.
I'm overwhelmed at the speed of the responses! I'll wait a little while until the software is sorted then order one.
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| 5th Nov 2011 10:11 pm |
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Calcul@tor
Member Since: 08 Mar 2006
Location: Middle England!
Posts: 810
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Got any good photos? I'm after an Indus Silver for my gallery!  D4 XS MY12 Galway
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| 6th Nov 2011 12:26 am |
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graemesmith
Member Since: 06 Oct 2007
Location: West of Scotland
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pm sent.
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| 6th Nov 2011 10:08 am |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Hiya Bill
At present we do not intend to produce a new license for the 2012 MY D4 over the previous D4 MY's so you will only need to do a VIN change.
With the current firmware on the FCR you will be able to read and clear faults from all the systems except those infotainment ones on the Most Bus. We expect to be able to figure out the changes required to gateway to these before very long and will hopefully be able to do this transparently. If not, there may be a Menu selection change but they will be covered under the same D4 license.
Clearly there are some small differences with the 2012 MY changes we need to get our heads round and incorporate into our diagnostic systems, this may take us a little while as its a lot of hard work that has to be done just right and there is a lot of aspects involved, but this is of course what we happen to do all day and every day, and i really i do not expect for one moment that anyone who knows us, our capability or our equipment will doubt it's simply a matter of time.
My guys are already hard at work sorting out vast amounts of information and file numbers that are being added into the Flash File Loader stuff along with all the new secondary boot loaders.
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| 20th Nov 2011 6:19 pm |
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jedi
Member Since: 06 Nov 2011
Location: Oban
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New to all this D4 electronics stuff but can usually sort mechanical problems... so will the faultmate enable me to get rid of those error messages eg parking brake fault etc...
Can some one explain exactly what a faultmate is and what it does..is it worth getting one.?? I have a 2009 Disco 4 manual with the 2.7 engine. (Still the best option for anti auto folk like me !!!!)
Thanks for your help.  Disco 1 200tdi, Td5 x2, Range Rover 200tdi, P38, Defender 90, D3 (05) D3 (57)
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| 25th Nov 2011 4:11 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Hiya Jedi
There are two main types of Faultmate.
The first is the Faultmate MSV-2 system, which uses an interface called the vehicle server that connects a PC to the vehicle. It is a really powerful and capable bit of equipment, capable of doing stuff even dealers can only dream of, and has earned itself quite a fearsome reputation amongst Disco 3 owners. Although it has all the basics (fault codes etc) for Disco 4, and it can change all the settings, it's still in its early stages, as indeed it once was with Disco 3.
Being such a capable tool, it's not exactly pocket money, but it can be purchased in a single vehicle mode, (which means it is locked to your vehicles VIN) from around 650 GBP plus all the usual VAT (but @15%) and shipping etc.
Here is a link to a document with more detail on it
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/download...e_msv2.pdf
You will note that there are EXTREME and NANO versions, but most everyone goes for the EXTREME and you will find nothing but the highest of praise for it amongst the vast numbers of members on here that now own one.
The second is the Faultmate FCR, which is a really small stand alone unit with its own display and function control buttons. It is designed for owners to keep in their vehicles and is available only in Single vehicle form.
It only reads and clears faults, which of course suits most perfectly, but must not be confused with cheap generic fault code readers that are capable of only reading OBDII compliant codes from just the Engine management and Autobox (not in your case obviously  ) as this is very Land Rover specific and like the MSV-2 reads fault codes from any and all on board vehicle systems (up to 25 or more if fitted) just as a dealers system would, but in a 50th of the time. It fully covers the Disco 4 systems.
It's ease of use, capability and flawless operation have also earned this a very huge degree of appreciation and respect.
It costs 199 GBP plus the usual, and here is the link to it's literature
http://www.blackbox-solutions.com/download...te_FCR.pdf
In fact it is worth noting that the reputation of both is so high, and as we do provide the capability to inexpensively re lock to different VIN's, used equipment is very highly sought after which results in any investor in one that has no further need of it getting most of their investment back.
Although this is a consideration, for most the sheer peace of mind of having your own kit, self confidence, self reliance, independence, bill saving and educational aspects alone make the investment an absolute no brainer, and for sure we have no complaints, except the very common "i wish i had got one sooner" if that counts, but ultimately only you can truly answer if it's worth you getting one.
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| 25th Nov 2011 6:13 pm |
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Flack
Member Since: 06 Sep 2006
Location: Preston Lancashire
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Anybody who buys the FM MSV2 will not be disappointed I have used car diagnostic equipment since the 70's and this has to be the best I have ever used for ease of use and having a safe backup facility. Its just has powerfull in stand alone mode.
Flack 
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| 25th Nov 2011 7:54 pm |
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teddyflipper264
Member Since: 28 Jun 2007
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 9
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Hey BBS SPY,
I have a D4 Landmark and want to edit the ccf to enable features such a voice control etc.
May also be fitting rear camera that will need enabling.
Will the FCR unit be able to do this or do I need the MSV2?
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| 22nd Jan 2012 9:51 pm |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
Location: Manchester
Posts: 14368
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You can't alter the CCF with an FCR G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 22nd Jan 2012 9:56 pm |
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Phillw
Member Since: 03 Dec 2009
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 121
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Hello BBS SPY,
Looking to purchase a 2012 MY.
Is there any news of a release date for the "Vehicle Explorer" software supporting a 2012MY for the MSV2.
Thank You.
Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE
Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 GS
Discovery 3 TDV6 S
Discovery 2 TD5
2009 Swift Conqueror
MSV-2 Extreme
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