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discostick
 


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Fitting used instrument cluster (mileage sync)

Has anyone done this with a Faultmate or IID ?

I have a used cluster, with lower mileage than the car (i read somewhere this was important).

I have a MSV-2 tool, i read the CCF, removed the old cluster, fitted the used one, wrote the CCF, VIN is correct in the cluster, etc.

The instrument cluster still shows the lower mileage of the new cluster.
Is there a procedure to update the mileage on the cluster to match that stored on the other ECU's?

Or will the car sync the mileage to the highest of the ECU's stored values after some time / distance on its own?

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Post #19107514th Feb 2018 9:37 pm
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All the info, not just milage has to be transferred from the old to the new for it to work, don't ask me how.
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I know the GAP IID tool can do it, they advertise the capability now.

But can the MSV-2?

Otherwise i will have to de-solder and move the chip (35080) over that holds the mileage data
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It isn't just the mileage, it hold all the information, settings, identity vin number, CCF, seams strange that you are most concerned about lower mileage!
 It can when others can't,
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I said in my first post the CCF went across fine! So all the data, VIN, car configuration is OK in the new cluster, it just hasn't sync'd the mileage.

So thats all i am worried about, nothing strange.
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I know nothing about this from personal experience, and have limited experience with d3s, but pretty sure one of the other threads discussed this.

It’s late, or I’d find it if I could, but maybe look in the IID faqs

The basic gist of it was that the iid tool can increase the mileage count of the “new” cluster, but cannot reduce it.

So the importance is, in order to sync the mileage from your old unit to the new unit, the new unit must have a lower mileage.

If you get one with a higher mileage, you are stuck

That’s what I remember, anyway.

Might be I got it wrong


Andy
  
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Andy Correct Thumbs Up


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Thanks guys.

Looks like the Faultmate cant do this but the IID tool can.

So i bit the bullet and while i had the cluster out, simply swapped the 35080 chip from my old cluster to the newer used one.

Miles is now correct and all working Thumbs Up
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The MSV can do it I have done a couple with it, but now only use the IID Tool.

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Got photos?

(Of the chip swap, not the OBD tools)
  
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Procedure with an iid, having copied all info from the old cluster before removal is;

Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->Synch odometer
Menu->Service Test->Instrument Pack->VIN Learn

No experience to share of any other tool though...
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Quote:
So i bit the bullet and while i had the cluster out, simply swapped the 35080 chip from my old cluster to the newer used one.


Thanks, but that was the part I was looking for photos of. Sounds interesting!
  
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Flack wrote:
The MSV can do it I have done a couple with it, but now only use the IID Tool.

Flack Thumbs Up


Hi Flack,

Just to confirm, you can use the MSV-2 to sync the mileage on a used cluster ?

I asked on the BBS forum and it wasnt possible...

Thanks!
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@discostick

Yes I know that bud I was referring to the backup procedure to change it, the MSV could change the mileage when it first came out, but he got in to a lot of trouble over it and it was dropped.

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