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zaphod
 


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I couldn't get the trim off the A pillar as I didn't have the correct torx bit and didn't fancy taking the wheel arch liners off as it seemed a bit of a dockyard job.

So, my shortcut was to get 3m of 2.5mm mains cable and strip all the insulation off, so I was just left with the copper. I then used it to gently "rod" through the tubes and it seemed to work pretty well. However I did have a recurrence of the internal rain after the car sat in torrential rain all weekend.

Maybe I need to revisit this one................ Confused
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Anyone know where the front drain tubes exit the vehicle? do they both exit on the drivers side as I couldnt find anything on the passenger side?
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See SteveNormans Post above;

"Land rover suggest removing wheel arch liners enough to get at the end of the drain tubes. The little valves are very small, it is suggested to trim them slightly to enlarge the hole, to stop them getting re-blocked.

The driver's side one which is visible when you remove the air intake grille, is usually blocked by the foam pad, & you can cut the foam away to help.

There is a TSB LA501-014 "
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Post #37800523rd Nov 2008 9:35 pm
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There is one draining behind each inner wheel arch liner
The passenger side one is very difficult to see, you can feel it by taking off the inner arch liner & feeling up in the hole in the inner wing.
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Thanks Steve Thumbs Up
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blocked drain tubes

another solution is to go to your local vet and ask him/her for a lamb feeder tube and a 50cc syringe, this tube will snugly fit down the start of the drainage channels and i then flushed mine with dilute tfr to remove the offending crud worked a treat
  
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This has all been done to my disco 3, the tubes have been cleared and followed from one end to the other but i'm still getting water in the footwell, which is building up in the channel for the wiring loom, although it is not as much water as before the tubes where cleared i can't find where the water is coming from, and neither can the dealer as they've had it back 4 time for this fault.

I have noticed that the sunroof has the cracks on the plastic machanism, but surely this wouldn't be enough to le to much water in??

Any ideas please Big Cry

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Hi Mate
I chased my tale on this water in the footwell problem for ages Banging Head
I found the leak myself. The water was coming throught cabin/pollen filter housing. You will need to open the lower glove box. Then squeeze the hinges so that the box drops down. Then remove the cover to the black filter housing and see if its wet. Mine was leaking on the right hand side.
The air recirculation flap is in there so check that operating ok.
cheers & good luck Thumbs Up
  
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Cheers, i might have to check that to, but mine is leaking on the drivers side, thanks for the reply. Thumbs Up

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cts1975 wrote:
Hi Mate
I chased my tale on this water in the footwell problem for ages Banging Head
I found the leak myself. The water was coming throught cabin/pollen filter housing. You will need to open the lower glove box. Then squeeze the hinges so that the box drops down. Then remove the cover to the black filter housing and see if its wet. Mine was leaking on the right hand side.
The air recirculation flap is in there so check that operating ok.
cheers & good luck Thumbs Up


Could you expand on this for me. Have the same problem, had sunroof repaired after the crack problem, attributed wet footwells with this, however on examination of the pollen box found it drenched. Whats the fix? Thanks
  
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For anyone looking for it, the drivers side "valve" is behind the air intake on the front wing..

Remove the grille.
Bend the air intake rubber scoop thing forwards



and you'll see a foam / rubber moulding behind it.

Get your fingers in behind it and pull this out towards you.

It is likely to be soaking wet and looks like this;



Look carefully at the inner wing bulkhead facing you and at the top you'll see something that looks at first like the head of a phillips screwdriver. This is the valve, which is made from moulded / crimped hose. Here you can see the gunge in it that's causing the blockage.



I took a pair of kitchen scissors to this to split it, then trimmed it shorter.



Went back to the hose I'd earlier detached at the sunroof end and gave a good blow. Result was lots of gungy mud splattered over the air intake scoop.



Clean up the mud, then pour water down the hose (a volvic bottle nipple fits snugly). This flushed out the mud and I doubt the hose will block again.

I then trimmed more foam off the back of the rubber moulding that was removed earlier, to make sure the water would run away, rather than hang about behind the air intake.

Refit the foam and ease the scoop back into place. Refit the hose to the gutter.

Pour more water down the sunroof gutter to check for leaks and ensure the water is draining out.

Refit the grille, then set about refitting the headlining and all the other bits.

Helps to have hands like a gynaecologist!

Many thanks to all the other guys here who gave good advice on getting the grille off and the headlining down Bow down Bow down Bow down
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Thanks to this thread I think I've solved my sunroof leak which developed yesterday in the heavy rain.

Memories of my D2 'flooded' back as I set off down the road with water leaking through the light.

I didn't take down the headlining, but took the grille off and cleared the muck around the valve behind the air intake scoop.

I also cleared some muck out of the drain hole with a cotton bud.

I washed the car and kept the hose on the roof for some time, when I opened the sunroof there was no water trapped in the tray, so fingers crossed.

Thanks Gareth, zaphod and everyone else who has added to this thread Bow down Bow down
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Glad to be of some assistance Very Happy

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cts1975 wrote:
Hi Mate
I chased my tale on this water in the footwell problem for ages Banging Head
I found the leak myself. The water was coming throught cabin/pollen filter housing. You will need to open the lower glove box. Then squeeze the hinges so that the box drops down. Then remove the cover to the black filter housing and see if its wet. Mine was leaking on the right hand side.
The air recirculation flap is in there so check that operating ok.
cheers & good luck Thumbs Up



Could you expand on this for me. Have the same problem, had sunroof repaired after the crack problem, attributed wet footwells with this, however on examination of the pollen box found it drenched. Whats the fix? Thanks



do we have any fix for this problem after all ? I am trying to find where the rain comes in from ! My sunroof linings are now clean and clear but i am afraid that the rain comes in from somewhere else. My whole car is bare naked now and I am waiting for your responses before refitting everything.

thank you
 J.p  
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FYI I went for a bit of pre-emptive maintenance at the weekend, and took out the air intake grill and gubbins to snip the valves (as per Zaphod's directions above). My car didn't have an X shaped end, it had an ordinary O, so at some point since MY2005 (mine's MY2007) the valve has been replaced with just the open end of a pipe. I also noted that the foam rubber insert had been sculpted to allow the water to drain out of the pipe and freely run out of the air intake area, so no knife needed there either.

Anyone know what MY this all changed?

Just mentioned it here so that it saves anyone else taking it all apart to find that there's nothing to be done. A quick squirt with my computer cleaning compressed air can down each of the front vents showed they were nice and clean, so there's another job I can leave for another year.

Off Topic Noticed that the replacement sunroof I got due to heavily cracked arms...has cracks in the arms. Are they using the wrong kind of grease to cause this to happen? I know I've stupidly broken plastic items before by using petrolium based grease instead of the more inert silicon grease.

Edit : Forgot to ask; the foam was soaking wet and smelly and so I would think it's a catalyst for rust starting in this area. Is it worth spraying the inside of the intake area with something to keep the damp out of the seams in there, or should I just extend the pipe down to the drain point of the intake area?
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