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KL
 


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Front ARB bush - options

Got to replace the front ARB bushes pre-MOT.

A couple of questions though:

1. replace bushes and / or the shims? (shims from DiscoMikey's excellent thread)
2. any advantage in going OEM or aftermarket bushes (eg Polybush)?
3. I'm pretty sure you don't need a press to fit the bushes (they are split type?). Could you confirm this?
4. what sort of price should I be looking at for bushes (and from where- TLO?)?

Thanks again in advance
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1. Shims if inner bush is not too worn & the shims haven't been fitted already
2. ChrisTyler has Red Polybush with no problem, others have been too stiff so the suspension hasn't worked as well as it should. Do you need heavier duty ride or has std been OK for you so far?
3. Correct on OEM bushes, not sure on Polybush, but I suspect they woiuld have to be the same
4. TLO is the cheapest for OEM

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Fitted Polybush to rear ARB on my car and have set for front - just haven't got round to fitting them yet.

Rear suspension now 'creaks' a bit, especially when raising/lowering but other than that, it's fine.

Can confirm that the polybushes are split, just like the OEM ones Thumbs Up

How easy is it to fit polybush to the front? The rears were a bit of a pig as the bolts were well corroded and I had lots of trouble getting them out. Am I right in thinking that the front clamps are secured by nuts on studs rather than bolts?
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I'm pretty sure that the older ARB bushes where we previously had to fit to fit the shims have been superceeded with a new design - meaning that if you fit these new ones, you won't need the shims at all...

Hopefully someone can confirm this Thumbs Up
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Yup, you're correct Paul (no suprise there then Wink )
The newer bushes (compete bushes, not just the strips) are slightly deeper rubber so the strip is no longer needed Thumbs Up
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Albourneboy wrote:
Fitted Polybush to rear ARB on my car and have set for front - just haven't got round to fitting them yet.

Rear suspension now 'creaks' a bit, especially when raising/lowering but other than that, it's fine.

Can confirm that the polybushes are split, just like the OEM ones Thumbs Up

How easy is it to fit polybush to the front? The rears were a bit of a pig as the bolts were well corroded and I had lots of trouble getting them out. Am I right in thinking that the front clamps are secured by nuts on studs rather than bolts?


- Polybushes are split.
- Front is more time consuming then rear. The nuts on the backside are a pig to get to and to loosen. Especially the N/S one. You need to remove the fuel cooler to get to that nut.
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Thanks guys!

The Polybush site only seems to allow you to add the front ARB bushes to an existing "kit" order.

I'm not in the market for a £300 kit as well, so I guess I'll have to go OEM.

Prices seem to vary on a quick Google - from £12 to TLO's £28. Not sure why the variance in prices?!
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You can delete the "kit" on the checkout page
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You can certainly buy the front and rear Polybush ARB bushes separately from the 'full' kit - I've not long done mine.

I can't remember the exact price but less than £40 including the postage etc.

They are split and, like AllbourneBoy, I found the rear do make a 'creak'.

Fitting both sets took a full day including changing the front brake pads and cleaning the underside as best I could while I was going. The only 'special' tool I needed was a shallow 18mm 3/8" drive socket to do the front with.
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Ken, did you notice any change in handling & comfort? (of the D3, not you!)
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Hi Ian,

I found the ride stiffer all round and the 'clunk' from both front and back is now well gone - even my lad commented the whole thing felt firm. I feel there is less wallowing so I'm happy with them.

I guess now it's a case of how they perform over time.

I have to admit the creak can be a bit of a pain at slow speed with the window fully down but that's the least of my worries.

The ones I have are 'red' - I'm not sure if they do other compounds as they do for Defenders etc. Never really thought to check..... Embarassed

I got mine on-line but the depot is in Wrexham and they do counter sales if you're passing that way.

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ok why would you put shrubbery into the gubbins that makes the car work ..... ?

very strange.

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Creak...

Not sure if I've done something that's going to prematurely end the life of the bushes, but I smeared a thin film of copper-slip between the polybush and the ARB, and then the Polybush and the clamp.

Mine don't squeak or creak at all!

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The instructions from Polybush do stress not to use any grease etc on the bushes other than washing up liquid to help slide them over.

If the creak really p Censored sses me off I'll try some silicon spray.
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I'll let everyone know if it all goes wrong.... Embarassed

I did read the instructions, but as an older car of mine had been fitted with copper slip infected polybushes and had soldiered on without squeaks or bush degradation - I thought I'd throw caution to the wind and risk Censored up my D3 Polybushes for a gauranteed quiet(ish) ride.

Isn't copper slip essentially just copper and lard?

SpiderBaby is right though - I probably should have just used silicone spray!

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