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philthejono
 


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'Grinding or grating noise

I have what could be described as either a grinding or a grating noise coming from somewhere in the rear (hard to pin-point, think it is centre or near-side). Starts around 10MPH and is audible up to around 30 - 40 MPH when I think the road noise masks it out. The noise does not change pitch or volume with speed.

Any ideas?

It was doing it before Christmas when it went for its final service before warranty ran out; have done 4k miles since then, including French Alps and back but can't recall whether the noise was still there when I got the car back.
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Post #60337414th Feb 2010 7:46 pm
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simon
  


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Rear diff (not the locking eDiff).

Had mine done and CG has also had it done.

Your symptoms describe what I had almost exactly.
  
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grzesiul
 


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I was told the same when they replaced the rear diff but grinding is still there in 2nd, and there was nothing like that when we got the car, comes from what I think more the gear box area than the diff

any manual users have something like it?
  
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philthejono
 


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Well, giving ther dealers a ring tomorrow, and will be arguing the fact that Iam not paying as I pointed it out to them (in writing) when it went in for its service when it was in warranty.
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Post #60356014th Feb 2010 11:37 pm
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As Si said rear diff - I think mines going again.
 
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Post #60357314th Feb 2010 11:54 pm
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simon
  


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Its it louder if the 3rd row seats are up ? Have someone sit in the 3rd row and listen carefully to the sound... to even better, have someone drive the D3 and YOU listen. You know the exact noise you are hearing so it will be easier to spot.

Dealer should have some 'chassis ears) that they can use to trace the source too.
  
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philthejono
 


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Been in today and yep, rear diff. Parts on order, being replaced next week.
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Post #60897323rd Feb 2010 9:37 pm
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What's the reason for the rear diff failures?

And any idea of cost?

Just took my 08 in this morning with the same symptoms at 54,000 miles, so I'm hoping it's not the diff... Sad
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Ajay(UK)
 


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philthejono wrote:
Been in today and yep, rear diff. Parts on order, being replaced next week.


Urm that may be optimistic Shocked I had my rear diff diagnosed as faulty early in December............Its only gone in today now the part has finally arrived Laughing

I would describe my symptoms more like a cylindrical noise than a grinding though Confused

Andy.
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cdodkin
 


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Ajay(UK) wrote:


I would describe my symptoms more like a cylindrical noise than a grinding though Confused

Andy.


Oh cr@p - that describes my symptoms to a tee Neutral

Still waiting for the 'well Mr Dodkin, the good news is it's cheaper than buying a new LR4' call....
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philthejono
 


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Cylindrical, grinding, very difficult to describe.

Full cost if not covered by the warranty is around £1k - £1.2k. I think a fair bit of it is labour though.
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cdodkin
 


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Big Cry It's the rear diff Big Cry

I got the call from the dealership - they are contacting LRNA today as it's a few thousand miles out of US warranty

Will report back when I hear
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Ajay(UK)
 


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cdodkin wrote:
Big Cry It's the front diff Big Cry

I got the call from the dealership - they are contacting LRNA today as it's a few thousand miles out of US warranty

Will report back when I hear


Part of me want the noise to still be there when I pick the car up in the morning and for LR to have to "cough" for a front diff too Whistle

Why do Land Rover's suffer with diff problems? Confused

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cdodkin
 


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reading around I have seen two potential issues:

1) coating on the inside of the diff is coming off, contaminating the diff oil, causing wear and then failure

2) diff leaks oil, causing wear, leading to diff failure

LR treat them almost as sealed units - oil change schedule is 100,000 miles I believe!
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suggest taking Mr Bombastic out of the cd player....
  
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