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Cheers,
That brings up another question I was was looking for an answer to.
I've not had to remove the oil pump on this, or mess with the bottom end, but obviously a lot of the oil is going to have come out while I've been spinning it around on the engine stand (sump off). So I don't think I need to prime the pump, but I guess there must be a good strategic way of putting the oil in before first start (yes through the filler cap...), but maybe in the oil filter hole etc..? At the moment I think I'm going to fill the oil up, and turn it over by hand quite a few times before going for it.
I am possibly over thinking that part.
I'm also pretty paranoid about the timing belt change I've done, the torque settings for the 6 pulley bolts seem pretty low (23nm?) but it's all turning fine and seems solid enough, and coming back in line for the pins after a few turns around (which is more than the old engine did! - which I'm now convinced is why it spun a bearing in the first place).
Also - the gearbox oil, I've no idea how much of that I've lost, but I've got a 1ltr top up bottle ready (granted - I may need more) but looks like I need the car to warm up before checking the level of that? Also looks like it's quite easy to do (top up) that from the radiator end.
I think once the engine is in and running another priority may be to change the gearbox oil and filter, and maybe get BODSY to do a full flush or something (think he's fairly local to me)
Basically - I think I'm just scared to start her up incase i've completely it up! 2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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10th Sep 2020 2:36 pm
PROFSR G
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Are you saying you didn't change the oil pump? If so, you really should have done as early pumps are prone to failure too! I would go as far as to say do it now before you go any further.
Fill the engine with about 4.5 litres of engine oil holding back the last litre or so. Then when everything is done and you're ready to turn the key. Pour in the remainder through the centre of oil filter (slowly) and don't let it fill too much the inside of the filter, or it will flow through it and over spill into the Vee! Pop on the cover and tighten, then turn the key immediately before it has a chance to drain back into the sump.
The gearbox can be topped up once the transmission is up to temperature and is not difficult. There is always a certain anxiety when starting a rebuilt engine for the first time. If you've covered everything and done it right all will be fine.
Now go and get that oil pump out. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
10th Sep 2020 4:07 pm
wallworkf1
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Don't panic - I didn't need to change it - remember - its already been done on the donor engine 2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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10th Sep 2020 4:10 pm
wallworkf1
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Sorry - I just realised I may not have mentioned that before 2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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10th Sep 2020 4:13 pm
wallworkf1
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This is really odd - I thought I had put a post up with some details of the 'new' engine but can't find it myself now!2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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10th Sep 2020 4:17 pm
PROFSR G
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That's alright, it's easy to forget where posts are on here. Just so long as you haven't done the same with the parts in your engine. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
10th Sep 2020 4:21 pm
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This gives you some idea of what to expect on first start up!
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10th Sep 2020 7:25 pm
wallworkf1
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Nice! Cheers, I hopefully won't be so anxious now.
Battery is fully charged too ready!2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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11th Sep 2020 9:00 am
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PROFSR G wrote:
This gives you some idea of what to expect on first start up!
does not need to take that long this was my first attempt:
regarding your "new" oilpump.. although it was changed allready... i think the "common" outcome here is, that also new pumps wear... as they do deliver rather low pressure a iddle as standard, and wear only drops that further, they always bennifit from a new pump.. since 100K miles on them can be a potential danger zone.. regarding pressure..
so it would be nice to know for you, how old that pump is..Best regards
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11th Sep 2020 9:39 am
wallworkf1
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Ohh nice - we'll have to see how long mine takes! (if it starts! )
It's only done 12k miles on this new pump, in 2 years. I can live with that. May check the pressures when it's all up and running for some peace of mind!2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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11th Sep 2020 10:14 am
PROFSR G
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Motolab wrote:
does not need to take that long
It doesn't always take that long Harold but it often does take an unusually long period of cranking to get these fired up. The point is that sometimes people question why it's not starting after relatively short cranking periods. This thinking can lead them down the path of unnecessary investigations.
Prime it well and give her hell. yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Sep 2020 2:30 pm
PROFSR G
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wallworkf1 wrote:
Ohh nice - we'll have to see how long mine takes! (if it starts! )
It will be fine, you didn't rip the entire engine apart so don't worry about it.
By the way, if there is no photographic/video evidence it didn't happen! yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Sep 2020 2:35 pm
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She lives!
My first start video didn't go as planned however as she didnt start! Then the bluetooth kicked in on the car and stopped the video!!! So left it over night to have a think and realised I forgot to bleed the low pressure fuel lines!
Bleed the lines first thing this morning and up she fired!
Second start video on the way.
Now I've got a day of finding out where all these left over screws and bolts should go. and putting car back together of course!
Also got the inner CV boot to do, so may as well get that out the way today if I can.
Will update later
To say I'm pleased, and relieved is an understatement.
Thanks for all the help everyone! It's been quite a journey so far!2008 Disco 3 HSE TDV6 - Gone
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15th Sep 2020 9:09 am
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Sounds like a top result - well done, and hope it stays that way Currently 2009 Disco 3 SE, 2013 MY D4 HSE and 2016 D4 SE
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it up! 
this was my first attempt:
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Then the bluetooth kicked in on the car and stopped the video!!! 
