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gstuart
 


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Hi

Hope u don’t mind me asking but did u fill the atf oil with the engine running or off plse , thks
   
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Hardware wrote:
Given motul think this is the right oil, I'd recheck levels to begin with.


Plus 1, As u say that motul is on the list, spec TYK500050, assume it doesn’t matter being the 4.4

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/gearbo...B0%5D=3069

Also says the same spec from the lifeguard 6

Approvals:
AML Oil No. 4G4319A509/AA/S
Audi / VW Oil No. G 055005 A1 / A2 / A6
Bentley Oil No. PY112995PA
BMW Oil No. 8322 0142516
Hyundai Oil No. 040000C90SG
Jaguar Oil No. Jaguar Fluid 8432
Land Rover Oil No. TYK500050
Maserati Oil No. 231603

ref the 10 x litres indeed also wonder if the OP has overfilled the box
   
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Did you check and top up the oil level while the engine was running ?
1st gear will not be used if you are in snow and ice mode. Thumbs Up
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Yes i done by flushing ita put around 10L inside

No snow mode never
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gstuart wrote:
Hi

Hope u don’t mind me asking but did u fill the atf oil with the engine running or off plse , thks


I done it on garage oil service by flushing did imput around 10l but i put motul mult atf maybe wrong type
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gstuart wrote:
Hardware wrote:
Given motul think this is the right oil, I'd recheck levels to begin with.


Plus 1, As u say that motul is on the list, spec TYK500050, assume it doesn’t matter being the 4.4

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/car-parts/gearbo...B0%5D=3069

Also says the same spec from the lifeguard 6

Approvals:
AML Oil No. 4G4319A509/AA/S
Audi / VW Oil No. G 055005 A1 / A2 / A6
Bentley Oil No. PY112995PA
BMW Oil No. 8322 0142516
Hyundai Oil No. 040000C90SG
Jaguar Oil No. Jaguar Fluid 8432
Land Rover Oil No. TYK500050
Maserati Oil No. 231603

ref the 10 x litres indeed also wonder if the OP has overfilled the box

Thank you so much for reply this link was help me now! The motul that have on list is different that i using
The correct is motul atf VI !
Please just let me know by this list i have to buy here in Brazil only This motul atfVI and Febi 34608, which you think that is better??
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Do a search for Filos automatic gearbox oil change on this site, you may find it in the wiki at the top of the page, it gives full instructions on how to do the oil change and more importantly how to check the level.
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M3DPO wrote:
Did you check and top up the oil level while the engine was running ?
1st gear will not be used if you are in snow and ice mode. Thumbs Up


Ill check level today please can you tell me the correct sequence to do it please!
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10+ Litres is too much fluid.

Did you run up to temperature and then go through the gears and allow excess to drain to level at the operating temperature with the engine running?
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Hi , as mentioned by @ M3DPO , Here’s the link ref how to do the correct procedure

https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/filos-autob...light=Filo
  

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Not sure with e ZF Fluid but it was posted before the oil is backwards compatible as the Mannol AG60 (used in the 8 speed) can be used in place of AG55 in a 6 speed ZF box.
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darrind wrote:
10+ Litres is too much fluid.

Did you run up to temperature and then go through the gears and allow excess to drain to level at the operating temperature with the engine running?


Thank you for reply ill do it now I waiting for correct temperature 35/40c ill check if have too muck or less oil!
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darrind wrote:
10+ Litres is too much fluid.

Did you run up to temperature and then go through the gears and allow excess to drain to level at the operating temperature with the engine running?


By the way if have too muck oil its cab occurs this problem? Or less oil only?
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If oil is causing the problem and you have checked the oil level when cold without the engine running you have not put enough in the gearbox.
Have a read at this, it may help you to understand the procedure:
http://jaguarforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37802
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gstuart wrote:
Hi

Hope u don’t mind me asking but did u fill the atf oil with the engine running or off plse , thks


Dear i checked level now! And after check with engine running after put all gear and put Park i put more 2,5liters until get level what you think??
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