Member Since: 03 Sep 2016
Location: West Mids Walsall
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Hydraulic lifter, injectors or cam chains Noise added live
Hi guys, would like to know how long and really what’s involved for me to sort this. Read the manuals and Jesus !!! Basically may as well say take the lot out so I’m after your advice as to if I have to take as much as it’s saying out or any tips. Also a list of bits I’m going to need and maybe bits I won’t because the manual says throw all and buy new bolts nuts and pipesMetal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days)
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10th Apr 2019 11:50 pm
Globetrotter448
Member Since: 21 Mar 2017
Location: Londonderry NSW
Posts: 1783
Never done it myself, but anyone doing heads indicate a body off job although I think someone on here took heads off without removing body
11th Apr 2019 12:30 am
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 4657
Re: Hydraulic lifters how painful to change ?
Dazz360 wrote:
Hi guys, would like to know how long and really what’s involved for me to sort this. Read the manuals and Jesus !!! Basically may as well say take the lot out so I’m after your advice as to if I have to take as much as it’s saying out or any tips. Also a list of bits I’m going to need and maybe bits I won’t because the manual says throw all and buy new bolts nuts and pipes
Can I ask what is leading you to changing the lifters?yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
11th Apr 2019 1:16 am
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
Old trick on sticky lifters if that is indeed the fault is a pint of diesel in the sump oil and give it a good run, obviously done at your own risk?
11th Apr 2019 6:49 am
OvalAutos
Member Since: 28 Dec 2018
Location: Cradley Heath
Posts: 382
Diesel in the oil is the last thing you want to do
If you need to flush, use a proper solution. But no amount of flushing will restore leaking lifters that clatter.
Body off is easier, if you have a ramp. The cams have to come out and the from is easygoing, but at the back you’ve got the vac pump on one side and fuel pump pulley on the other.Joe
11th Apr 2019 9:42 am
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10365
you don't want to be changing the lifters.
Drivers side isn't too bad, though it is a lot of work, just to get the cam cover off.
cambelt requires removal too.
Doing the passenger side is a pain body on.
Much better off with some oil flush and then change
11th Apr 2019 12:06 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
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OvalAutos wrote:
Diesel in the oil is the last thing you want to do
Doesn’t that lead to a runaway engine? Asked as a complete non techie but ISTR hearing that.
11th Apr 2019 12:34 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
OvalAutos wrote:
Diesel in the oil is the last thing you want to do
If you need to flush, use a proper solution. But no amount of flushing will restore leaking lifters that clatter.
Body off is easier, if you have a ramp. The cams have to come out and the from is easygoing, but at the back you’ve got the vac pump on one side and fuel pump pulley on the other.
Sadly diesel in oil on modern engines is nothing new (google it, it is a probelm on all makes) and as I said was an old trick that did work.
Also an excellent oil flush for sludge etc.
Diesel in the oil is the last thing you want to do
Doesn’t that lead to a runaway engine? Asked as a complete non techie but ISTR hearing that.
t'other way round ... oil in the diesel
and to expand on what Lynalldiscovery has said, I thought this was a "design feature" on D5s ... designed to catch out all those drivers who have the wrong driving style.
11th Apr 2019 3:36 pm
Dazz360
Member Since: 03 Sep 2016
Location: West Mids Walsall
Posts: 871
Basically I brought the car January time as my other D3 was wrote off, because I don’t have a lot of service history on this one I want to do time kit, oil pump, fuel pump belt / tensioner and whilst engine is in bits cam chains and lifters. I’ve done a oil flush and filter and I’ve done the injectors. I still have a tappety rattle so I’m guessing just do the rest whilst in bitsMetal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days)
11th Apr 2019 9:34 pm
Dazz360
Member Since: 03 Sep 2016
Location: West Mids Walsall
Posts: 871
Also need to know what the brands of the parts I need ie dayco belts and idlers etc please
Thanks guysMetal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days)
11th Apr 2019 10:03 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10365
Yes dayco
Is the noise in one side only ?
11th Apr 2019 10:49 pm
Dazz360
Member Since: 03 Sep 2016
Location: West Mids Walsall
Posts: 871
It’s hard to explain but when cold it’s not to bad and sound good, little bit rough but when warm the top is noisy. The noise I believe is both sidesMetal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days)
12th Apr 2019 2:35 pm
Dazz360
Member Since: 03 Sep 2016
Location: West Mids Walsall
Posts: 871
My other D3 has done 185000 miles and sound better and starts better even after 2 weeks of standingMetal auto sump & fluid change (3 hrs)
LR door puddle projectors (10 mins)
Tinted Bonnet wind deflector (10 mins)
All Intercooler pipes and Tbolts (2hrs)
3 injectors replaced so far (30mins)
Sunroof drain pipes both sides 2.5 hrs)
Rear discs, shoes,pads,callipers,flexi hoses, rigid brake line, n/s upper hub carrier bush and rear n/s upper arm (13hrs over 2 days)
12th Apr 2019 2:36 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
Member Since: 11 May 2006
Location: Off again! :-)
Posts: 72787
Try doing a vid recording on yer phone, upload to YouTube & post link. Then peeps can hear what you hear.
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