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Andyyav
 


Member Since: 22 May 2019
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4
Brake bleeding

As part of my maintenance plans I decided to change the brake fluid, easy I thought done that before I’ve got some ravenol dot 4.......ended up changing a calliper as the bleed nipple stripped the thread, GAP IId tool kept throwing errors so ended up doing it old school, now although the brakes are good they don’t feel ‘as good’ as before could I have gotten air in the ABS system?? Maybe I’ve broken something going old school? Anybody any ideas, do you think Kwik fit (right beside my work) could help diagnose anything?
  
Post #213250528th Mar 2020 7:21 pm
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M3bobby
 


Member Since: 21 May 2018
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What were you using the IID tool for? What were the fault codes?
 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete) 
 
Post #213254228th Mar 2020 9:44 pm
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Andyyav
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

no fault codes related to the brakes ( just FBH and audio) i was attempting to use the iid brake bleed function under the service menu, figured i should as i had it handy and it maybe needed due to the ABS, (last time i done it was an ABS free defender) it looked ok to start 'open rear right' 'pump brake pedal' then a timer went into minus figures screen froze, re booted it 'close rear right' press continue and it errors, maybe i need to bleed a few times more over the next few days? just watched the powerful lads do their D4 no mention of ABS or use of the iid
  
Post #213256029th Mar 2020 5:15 am
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M3bobby
 


Member Since: 21 May 2018
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I just use the traditional wife on brake pedal method, I didn’t even know the IID tool had a bleed function. Have another go manually again and see if it improves.
 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete) 
 
Post #213256829th Mar 2020 6:25 am
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M3DPO
 


Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
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England 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

You need a Ezibleed kit, about £20 from most accessory shops, works off tyre(spare) pressure below 20psi, you can kiss the wife goodbye Laughing
 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
Post #213258329th Mar 2020 7:56 am
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Andyyav
 


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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

Laughing Sounds like a plan wonder if they'd consider a trade in, id pay the difference of course!!!
  
Post #213266329th Mar 2020 11:53 am
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M3bobby
 


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I’ve actually go an EZ bleed kit but I rarely use it. It’s easier to blame the wife when it goes horribly wrong. As the old saying goes, ‘A bad workman always blames his tools, a good one blames his wife’.
 012MY RRS 5.0 Supercharged Autobiography (Current)
Mods:
TPMS (Complete but got an issue)
Genuine LR DRLs (Complete)
Remote Boot close from key fob (Complete)
2016 Discovery 4 Mirrors AKA RRS2 (Complete)
2014 L405 Surround Camera retro fit (Now 2016 L319)
2013 RRS Dual View Screen fit (Complete)
2016 LR4 RSE (Complete)
2014 LR4 Homelink (Complete)
2016 FFRR Electrochromatic Wing Mirror Glass (Complete) 
 
Post #213276229th Mar 2020 4:45 pm
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knwatkins
 


Member Since: 19 Sep 2018
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Rolling with laughter Brilliant
 Kev

MY2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
MY2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey 
 
Post #213276329th Mar 2020 4:48 pm
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Nasher
 


Member Since: 07 Mar 2009
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England 2016 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 HSE Lux Auto Loire BlueDiscovery 4

Had my Ezibleed kit for years and wouldn't be without it.

I don't use the spare to 'power' it though, I have an old Disposable welding gas cylinder that I top up to 20PSI with my compressor and use that.

far easier than humping a spare wheel about.

Nasher
 Heaven doesn't want me, and hell is afraid I'll take over.  
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knwatkins
 


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I've been thinking about getting one of these...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VS820-Clut...B000ROARTI

It'll avoid the ear ache I get when bleeding the brakes (wife moaning her legs are aching).
 Kev

MY2014 L405 RR Vogue SE 4.4 SDV8 in Corris Grey
MY2010 L320 RRS HSE 3.0 TDV6 in Stornoway Grey 
 
Post #213280629th Mar 2020 6:36 pm
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Andyyav
 


Member Since: 22 May 2019
Location: Norfolk
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

^^looks good, I ordered an ezibleed earlier like the sound of the Nasher set up, wonder if I could fashion a suitable connection to my portable tyre inflator thing, what could possibly go wrong Whistle
  
Post #213284529th Mar 2020 8:43 pm
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M3DPO
 


Member Since: 22 Sep 2010
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England 2014 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Lux Auto Corris GreyDiscovery 4

No, you cannot use a tyre inflator, If you haven’t got a spare wheel from any car available drop the pressure on one of the cars tyres to 20psi and use that, use the tyre inflator to pump it back up when you have bled the brakes. Thumbs Up
 It can when others can't,
It will when others won't,
It goes where others don't. 
 
Post #213285029th Mar 2020 8:50 pm
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Andyyav
 


Member Since: 22 May 2019
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United Kingdom 2010 Discovery 4 3.0 TDV6 XS Auto Stornoway GreyDiscovery 4

Surely if I set the required pressure to <20 psi it’s the same as a tyre? Or am I missing something blindingly obvious (wouldn’t be the first time) Embarassed
  
Post #213298230th Mar 2020 10:57 am
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Jamiehol
 


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knwatkins wrote:
I've been thinking about getting one of these...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-VS820-Clut...B000ROARTI

It'll avoid the ear ache I get when bleeding the brakes (wife moaning her legs are aching).


I bought one of these to replace an ageing Eazibleed a few years ago and am really pleased with its performance.
  
Post #213298930th Mar 2020 11:32 am
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L319
 


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United Kingdom 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 HSE Auto Buckingham BlueDiscovery 3

When working at the end of the system such as replacing the callipers, I remove the bleed nipple and let the fluid to run out under gravity , until clear of air and replace the nipple. 9 times out of 10 it works as there is no turbulence to aerate the fluid.
  
Post #213303630th Mar 2020 1:03 pm
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