Member Since: 30 Aug 2014
Location: Liskeard
Posts: 7438
I like AdBlue, but....
...just how much plastic are we needlessly throwing away? Plastic that we didn’t throw away before. This photo was taken when I stopped at the petrol station tonight:
There’s a phenomenal weight of plastic in these single use containers and my local authority won’t take them for recycling as they’re >3 litres. And they are next to impossible to cut / saw up into chunks.
Definitely a lack of joined up thinking here 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car
2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!)
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29th May 2019 6:56 pm
adam
Member Since: 20 Sep 2005
Location: Home and Happy
Posts: 6917
Good for the environment thoughNow Golf GTI PP, 7 speed DSG.
Ex D3 and D4
29th May 2019 7:30 pm
LT
Member Since: 31 Dec 2005
Location: South West
Posts: 23366
Our weekly recycling collection accepts them.
There’s no nationwide standards on what local councils will collect as recyclable material. Which, IMO, needs to be changed.
BANES, seems to be one of the better ones though.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
2010 D4 HSE (A bit bling)-GONE
2014 D4 HSE (Almost too bling)-GONE
2015 D4 HSE (A heated what?)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Written Off)-GONE
2016 D4 Landmark (Surely the last!) PD1881 rims-GONE
2017 FFRR SDV8 Autobiography
29th May 2019 7:44 pm
leeds
Member Since: 30 Aug 2010
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 4312
Plastic recycling? Sounds easy BUT is much more difficult in practise.
The simplistic mantra is reduce, reuse, recycle and in that order.
China used to be a major importer of waste plastic items for recycling but have greatly reduced the amount they are importing.
Countries such as the Philippines and Malaysia are getting tougher on the imported 'plastics for recycling' which actually turns out to be dirty plastic based household waste. Their courts are now beginning to instruct that the waste is to be sent back to the country of origin.
Now think about the amount of single use plastic containers in a house, be it shampoo, washing up liquid etc. Doubling the container size does not double plastic used in the container. Then why not be able to get thin walled sachets to refill the thick wall rigid containers?
How easy is it to actually recycle rigid walled spray containers. Apart from two or more plastics use often of different colours and often containing a metal spring in the spray mechanism. So it is not an easy job just to recycle them. We need to be able to reuse these plastic containers as much as possible.
Instead of supermarkets offering 50 million types of shampoo/bodywash etc how about 4/5 versions with big barrels and just refill the plastic rigid wall containers?
Yes we all need to rethink different ways of using plastics and care in recycling them.
Ooops sorry for the rant.
Brendan
29th May 2019 8:08 pm
J77
Member Since: 03 Mar 2008
Location: Fife
Posts: 6261
Stuck mines in my plastic recycling bin. It’s rare I top up though, I usually just replace the car 23.5MY Defender 90 X-Dynamic SE D250 MHEV Pangea Green
29th May 2019 8:40 pm
mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2702
I have a new car ever 6months max and we are buying a drum of adblue 10l isn’t enough Mike
29th May 2019 9:59 pm
sasdiscos
Member Since: 22 Feb 2013
Location: Northants
Posts: 886
We fix one problem but create another bigger problem. They just get swept under the rug until there in the spotlight by the media and the people that can be bothered to make a fuss.
As long as we are here we will be making problems that we ultimately can’t solve. There is no answer and there never will be........until we are gone!
SteveYou remind me of a younger me, not much younger mind...perhaps even a little older!
Maybe I shouldn't be taking the peel but it seems a bit odd..
Dean
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2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
2011 D4 XS - OBD port protection, RLD spare wheel protector, All LED interiors lights, Timed Climate enabled, iiD tool paired.
2011 D4 Landmark - Stolen from same dealer before I paid for it
2011 D4 GS - Stolen whilst at dealer ... All LED interiors lights, DRLs, Spare Wheel protector.
1996 300Tdi - Eaten by tin worms
30th May 2019 8:28 am
Robbie
Member Since: 05 Feb 2006
Location: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posts: 17932
Of course, the evidence that AdBlue actually does anything useful for diesel cars is rather thin or even deliberately misleading.
Not to be confused with the full SCRs in trucks though - same fluid but a different beast. Plenty evidence that these systems have environmental benefits.
Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
SCR needs Adblue to work
You only have too look at any Euro 6 car or truck tail pipe to see just how amazing the latest systems are, totally spotless.
65 plate Scanias 600k and tailpipe still as clean as new inside.
Read recently that Euro6 is making the particles so small they are now entering the food chain
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30th May 2019 1:11 pm
lynalldiscovery
Member Since: 22 Dec 2009
Location: Maidstone
Posts: 7274
mse wrote:
I have a new car ever 6months max and we are buying a drum of adblue 10l isn’t enough
Iirc 6mths is max storage time for Adblue especially once container has been opened, why I have no idea, maybe starts to crystalise?
Also read the same, six months, or eighteen months if unopened. Should also be stored at less than 25 degrees and out of direct sunlight, complete opposite to a garage forecourt.
30th May 2019 7:12 pm
mse
Member Since: 27 Jun 2005
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 2702
lynalldiscovery wrote:
mse wrote:
I have a new car ever 6months max and we are buying a drum of adblue 10l isn’t enough
Iirc 6mths is max storage time for Adblue especially once container has been opened, why I have no idea, maybe starts to crystalise?
depends how you store it - but we consume loads the disco and range rover takes about 10-15l a top upMike
30th May 2019 7:33 pm
Brian_DL13
Member Since: 25 Aug 2013
Location: Teesdale
Posts: 1418
Adblue is just about reducing emissions, not saving the planet
Recycling and such things are just a sticking plaster on the climate change / global warming issue. The UK is responsible for < 1% of global carbon emissions and nothing we in the UK do will affect the issue at a global level more than marginally. The only thing that will rescue the situation is the global human population stabilising / reducing, and / or people consuming less (= a less 'affluent ' lifestyle).
Of course, humans being what they are, that is never going to happen.
Sensibly, the best thing to do would be to work on ways to either engineer temperature reductions and / or ways to deal with temperature increases. Measures to reduce CO2 emissions etc etc in the UK are a waste of time IMHO given the human race's short term approach.
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