jkp
Member Since: 17 Sep 2005
Location: Living among Bawbags
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I've used this for around 6 fill-ups now and not noticed any change in anything 
MPG unchanged, performance unchanged, noise at tickover unchanged, wallet £20 lighter 
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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I've had better effects from just using the expensive diesel ie. Shell V.Power or BP Ultimate. I can really tell the difference on tick-over noise and better mpg with these. The Millers additive had no measurable effect or results on mine either  2005 D3 HSE
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| 24th Oct 2008 5:18 pm |
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Hobgoblin
Member Since: 15 Nov 2007
Location: As always, in the sh*t, it's only the depth that varies
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Expensive diesel ie. Shell V.Power or BP Ultimate is a waste of money in my car  Haven't tried millers I'm not as good as I once was........but I'm as good once as I ever was.
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| 24th Oct 2008 5:21 pm |
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Wex
Member Since: 16 Apr 2007
Location: Knackeragua
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JKP ,I thought it worked TBH . used it quite a bit . Noticeable in midrange.
Some involuntary petrol intake over the weekend made a bigger difference though 
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| 24th Oct 2008 5:24 pm |
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mick
Member Since: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Yorkshire
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use it now and again dont know if it works on the Disco but it does on the van.
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| 24th Oct 2008 7:21 pm |
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TSR2
Member Since: 22 Jul 2008
Location: North Lincolnshire
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Sadly have to agree with the guys. Just finished my second bottle of millers and didn't really notice any difference. Have noticed a big variance in diesel quality from one filling station to another though. Going to try the V-power and BP ultimate next. 
Trev
PS Not the beer. Always notice a difference after 7 or 8.
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| 24th Oct 2008 7:30 pm |
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crews control
Member Since: 18 Mar 2007
Location: Dorset
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Hobgoblin wrote:Expensive diesel ie. Shell V.Power or BP Ultimate is a waste of money in my car Haven't tried millers
I wonder if that's because your engine is newer/different spec to the older (pre 07) models
I thought there are more gains to be had on the old engines, but I'm probably just making that up  2005 D3 HSE
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| 24th Oct 2008 7:53 pm |
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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I think it was MILLERS that NoDosh Alan recommended, I may be wrong, but have just started to use it so no results yet. I will let you Know, but boy does it stink 
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| 24th Oct 2008 8:21 pm |
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IKke
Member Since: 29 Apr 2008
Location: Brabant
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On freel2.com they are adding 2-stroke oil to diesel. The oil reacts with the diesel to improve it. The gaines here are better lubrication, cleaner combustion and a MPG improvement of 3-5%.
Link to topic on freel2.com about this
Quote:2-stroke oil and diesel
To all interested:
due to the pollution control measures of the EC diesel-oil is nearly sulphur free and contains up to 5% of bio-diesel. Sulphur has the property to grease the high pressure injection pump and the injectors. Without sulphur, the reduced greasing property of the new diesel has already shown negativ impacts on the long-term stability of the injectors and the high pressure pump. The pump manufacturers have tried to react by lining the moving parts of the pumps with teflon or other suitable material. However, the long term stability is still not achieved as with the old (sulphor contained) diesel.
The engine-research centre of a well known German car manufacurer has conducted some long term tests of diesel additives to find out whether any one of them will have an impact on the long term reliability of the diesel engine components. This introduction to explain were my information comes from.
The results of this research: any diesel additive of any manufacturer presently on the market is not worth the money!
BUT: 2-stroke oil, which we use in our motor saws, lawn mower or in 2-stroke motor engines has shown to have an extreme positive impact on diesel engines, if such 2-stroke oil is added to the diesel in a homoeophatic dosis of 1:200. In practical terms: 0,300 litre of 2-stroke oil into the 70l diesel tank. The 2-stroke oil will be absorbed by the diesel (emulsion) and grease every moving part of the high pressure pump and the injectors.
Besides this, the 2-stroke oil will keep the diesel engine clean, as it burnes cleaner as the diesel itself.
In other words, the 2-stroke oil has a much lower ash-content as diesel, when burned. This proven fact delays the DPF (diesel particulate (soot) filter) to clogg, and the "burn free" process of the DPF will be much less.
One more information: in Germany we have to present our cars every 2 years to the TUV -Technical Supervision Organisation - who will check, amongs others, the pollution of petrol and diesel engines.
The measured cloud-factor of a diesel engine without use of 2-stroke oil has been 0,95.
The same factor with the use of 2-stroke oil has been 0,47 - reduction of nearly half of the soot particles.
Besides this, the use of 2-stroke oil in the diesel will increase the milage by 3-5%.
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| 24th Oct 2008 8:22 pm |
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ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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I use Millers, bought 5 ltrs of the stuff.
Seems to make a slight difference in mpg, but only slight.
But, hopefully it keeps the injectors and other internals free from soot.
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| 24th Oct 2008 8:37 pm |
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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thats what I thought too ron, at least the internals are lubed up, and the injectors kept clean. canny do harm can it
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| 24th Oct 2008 8:55 pm |
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NoDo$h
Member Since: 02 May 2006
Location: Finding new and exciting ways to milk badgers.
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I used Millers Power Plus in the past, a product that's been replaced by Millers Power Sport 4 . Always happy with it, in the Alfa, the L200 and the old D3. Haven't used it on the new D3 as I now live near a Shell station and use Optimax given a chance. Car is noticeably more eager and quieter on Optimax. Fuel economy marginally better (about 1.5mpg average over 60 gallons) although this could also be attributed to the engine loosening up as I've only got 6700 miles on the new one. One thing I do notice is when I fill up at a supermarket or similar is the marked deterioration in performance and an increase in noise, so the premium fuels do make a difference, just not able to say with certainty that it improves mpg.
Suppose I ought to give millers another go at some point. Not so sure about 2-stroke oil though I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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| 24th Oct 2008 9:29 pm |
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