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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
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Unless you have been on another planet, you will have undoubtedly seen / read the many posts regarding our FAULTMATE MSV-2 equipment and it's wonderfully advanced capabilities, which are progressing quite nicely. However full on PC based equipment is not all we develop / produce.
We also developing a range of small low cost items that require no PC and typically address any sufficiently desired requirement.
As such we have developed a small and incredibly simple unit that plugs into the OBDII connector of a Disco 3 (and for that matter also a Range Rover Sport, CAN BUS based Full fat RR and Freelander 2) That will reset the service interval Indicator / Announcer. But i am only announcing this here so feel free to spread the word if you wish.
The unit smartly utilizes a high intensity multi colour LED to indicate it's activity / result and a pre settable 16 way rotary switch to pre select not only an "as per dealer equipment reset" but also a wider variety of other possibilities of different length service interval reminders as well as different earlier warnings.
the unit obviously comes with full instructions and support.
In accordance with our companies aims to provide the lowest possible cost equipment for the private individual to use on their own car only, the unit will lock itself forever to the first vehicle it is used on. However it will also cost less than 50 GBP.
The unit is in the final stages of testing and is expected to be availiable in production quantities with a few short weeks.
I will post pictures as soon as i can.
In the meantime i would happily accept any / all comments and input.
Perhaps i should also mention that this is only one of several such items we are developing. It just happens to be the one that is ready first and as i have stated i am always open to your input and ideas for our future developments.
Warmest regards to all
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 2nd May 2009 7:56 pm |
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DigitalJunior
Member Since: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Cumbria
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Can't see a valid reason to reset the 'Service Indicator' myself. If the D3 needs a Service according to how its driven, time or milage then it needs a Service.
Why would you want to fool yourself or the next buyer ? SOLD - 23my Range Rover Sport D300 Dynamic SE
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| 2nd May 2009 8:32 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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Unless you have done the service yourself, if its just filters and oil/fluids it is not beyond many on here  I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 2nd May 2009 8:34 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
Posts: 4030
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I know where you are coming from guys 
BUT
The good old fashioned ways of proving vehicle service history still apply, namely:
1. Ask to see the service log book, if in doubt ring the dealers/independents who are alleged to have serviced it, and ask them to confirm from their records that it was serviced as stated.
2. If serviced by the owner, ask to see receipts, and visually check that the components age corresponds to the receipts. If you have a receipt for an oil filter from 3 months ago, and the oil filter is rusted to  , then something ain't right.
If you cannot satisfy yourself that ANY car you are buying is as advertised, then walk away, or negotiate very hard.
The bottom line is that if BBS SPY's company do not produce this product, then someone else will, there is a market (whether we like it or not) and someone will supply it.
Its no worse than buying a car 10 or 15 years ago when clocking was the rage, knock 50,000 miles off and ignore the fact that the last 5 services have been missed, and the car looks like a bargain, do your homework and check the vehicle in detail and you will walk away to spend your money another day on a decent motor I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
Buzz Aldrin (1930 -
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| 2nd May 2009 8:50 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
Posts: 3054
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The capability to reset the service reminder regardless of if the vehicle has just been serviced or not is something that anyone owning a suitably equipped and readily available diagnostic system has had for some time.
AFAIK no other equipment other than ours has permitted resetting outside the Manufacturer defined parameters.
Thus meaning that any used car buyer would have no idea if a service reminder would occur in 11 months or 1 days time.
It is not my intent or desire to police / justify this equipments development capability or use and it offers no more capability than was previously available, just at a vastly lower price.
As the owner of a much older D3, long out of warranty, when my car needs a service, i am glad to have my choice of independents to service it in general, with or without the approved Land Rover service sheet to guide them. And although they may not be equipped with a tool to reset the cars service interval reminder for me. which is after all a feature and capability of the car added for my convenience and benefit. I do, and can set it to remind me exactly when i should think about my next service.
It is nothing more or less than a tool for me to take control over that which i rightly own.
After all, I may also own a shotgun, but that does not mean i mug or kill people does it? It simply means i don't have to rely on Sainsburys for fresh rabbit 
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| 2nd May 2009 9:04 pm |
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UNG
Member Since: 20 Jun 2008
Location: Lancs
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NeilD wrote:I agree with Jnr , I think it will lead to everybody selling 2nd hand D3's with the service indicator at max  . I really do not think it should be produced for the plain fact it will mislead 2nd hand car buyers  .
Makes me wonder what we did before they fitted service indicators to cars At least there's no clocking going on so we can rely on the odometer "Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
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| 2nd May 2009 9:24 pm |
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DigitalJunior
Member Since: 22 Nov 2008
Location: Cumbria
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BB Don't get me wrong if you do your own servicing or independant does it then it a useful/valid product, but give people the chance and some will take it. SOLD - 23my Range Rover Sport D300 Dynamic SE
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| 2nd May 2009 9:38 pm |
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BBS SPY
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Member Since: 15 Jun 2007
Location: Sunny Cyprus
Posts: 3054
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Wow, i never expected such controversy.
You guys make me feel like Robert Oppenheimer
"I am the Destroyer of worlds"
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/87...omic_Bomb/
I felt for that guy, as he was really intelligent and in the midst of the over riding war effort, he knew exactly what he had done.
As for Car Clocking similarities, man you really don't know compared to me, just for once please trust me on that.
This is just a bit of of low cost kit that allows the service interval indicator to be reset, nothing more nor less.
Buying any car has always required the buyer to ascertain its true values based upon anything and everything other that any electronically provided information.
Digitajunior you seem aware and driven by such car buying concerns / pitfalls.
might i inquire as to your source of awareness to such.
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| 2nd May 2009 10:05 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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BBS SPY wrote:
As for Car Clocking similarities, man you really don't know compared to me, just for once please trust me on that.
mmm... that was a bit arrogant Colin.
I think the guys are raising valid points about this. There will be someone selling D3's who will reset the service indicator and claim it was serviced, or even take the cash for a service and not actually do one.
Dodgy ground being opened up again.
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| 2nd May 2009 10:17 pm |
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NeilD
Member Since: 01 Dec 2008
Location: Sunny Surrey
Posts: 4845
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BBS SPY wrote:Wow, i never expected such controversy.
You guys make me feel like Robert Oppenheimer
"I am the Destroyer of worlds"
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/87...omic_Bomb/
I felt for that guy, as he was really intelligent and in the midst of the over riding war effort, he knew exactly what he had done.
As for Car Clocking similarities, man you really don't know compared to me, just for once please trust me on that.
This is just a bit of of low cost kit that allows the service interval indicator to be reset, nothing more nor less.
Buying any car has always required the buyer to ascertain its true values based upon anything and everything other that any electronically provided information.
Digitajunior you seem aware and driven by such car buying concerns / pitfalls.
might i inquire as to your source of awareness to such.
Jesus BB, put your toys back in the pram!. You put up on here for views, you got them. So they were not all 'wow, your a cool guy , thank you 8) ' please do not go knocking people. Suggest you have a little rethink about your words before you make a fool of yourself.
Isnt it always the talented brainy ones always have a flaw?
And as for clocking a car etc etc, pretty easy to get a stamp in a book, always has been, always will be, however with this tool it'll add to the 'lie' of someone selling a dodgy motor if they can reset to service indicator, esp when you consider dealer prices.
As always, comments and ideas are open to all.... My Youtube Channel http://www.youtube.com/user/NeilDisco#p/u/5/Dz4-Q95GQ2c
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| 2nd May 2009 10:36 pm |
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SJR
Member Since: 09 Aug 2006
Location: East Manchester
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BBS SPY wrote:
As for Car Clocking similarities, man you really don't know compared to me, just for once please trust me on that.
Is the reason why you escaped to Cyprus because it has no extradition treaty with the UK  , my reading of what you wrorte is that you have been there and done that when it comes to clocking cars  I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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| 2nd May 2009 10:41 pm |
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simon
Member Since: 11 Jan 2005
Location: Shropshire
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There is a chap I know, who knows a chap that will clock your D3, RRS, FFRR, FL2 if you need BTW
Does Aston's too.
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| 2nd May 2009 10:53 pm |
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bellautos
Member Since: 02 Feb 2006
Location: NorthYorkshire
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To try and keep the thread on topic.
I think it could be a handy tool for a car that needs servicing and the servicing dealer does not have the tools to reset the counter.
Just like the BMW oil reset tool you can buy for the older models along with many of the service reset tools sold because they are actualy needed for some people.
I personaly think it could be especialy handy for some because it means you can if you wish, use an local independant garage for your service or do it our self without having to pay specialist landrover tooled dealers to do the work just because your service info needs a reset at the same time.
@ BBS, When they are ready ill have 10 please with some trade discount if poss 
You know my details when they are ready give me a shout.
Pete
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| 2nd May 2009 11:18 pm |
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