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Nitrogen tyre fill
Being talking to a chap today who runs nitrogen in his tyres.
1] Says the ride is softer but without adversly affecting handling.
2] Says pressures don't fluctuate as with air - ie hot & cold.
3] And is more dense so doesn't escape as easy as air.
4] Also says that [he heard] tyres are expected to last 30% longer ??
5] £2.50 per tyre fill, but cheaper than air in the long run
Anyone any comments / experience ??
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15th Nov 2009 1:24 pm
DSL Keeper of the wheelie bin
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Thought air was 78% N anyway???
15th Nov 2009 1:25 pm
ad15
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quikfit will automatically fill your tyres with nitro at £2.50 a go unless you specify otherwise...
have had the AT2's on it since bought, not really noticed any difference to be honest...one wife.......livid
15th Nov 2009 2:42 pm
UNG
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Costco tyre bays have been filling tyres with nitrogen for a while.
The tyres may last longer ? i.e. the rubber does not deteriorate as quick, but they are probably only good for the same amount of miles
I asked a Costco tyre fitter what would I use if I needed to top up or increase pressures for any reason, his answer was normal air, so I don't see the benefit
I have never noticed any difference in use, and can't believe all the claims
Ron did he not mention that F1 cars use it so the tyres run cooler as that's one I was told"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag'em down to your level. It's cheaper".
15th Nov 2009 3:21 pm
Ken
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Its just for profit the machines cost 700 ish no maintenance no filter change etc pure profit
Total b cks I'm afraid Air is denser than Nitrogen because the other main constituent Oxygen is denser than N2. (1)
You are only likely to see the effects of the difference between air and N2 in a laboratory not on the tires on your car.(2 & 3)
4 Total b cks Wear happens from outside in ??
5 is a good reason to tell you the other 4, sounds like a clever entrepeneur.
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15th Nov 2009 5:52 pm
Stu
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The Nissan GTR specification is that it must be filled with Nitrogen.
Personally I can't see it making any significant difference on a D3.D3 HSE MY05 Auto
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15th Nov 2009 6:34 pm
alanwxr
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Easy fill 'em with helium, will reduce tyre wear and increase mpg!
15th Nov 2009 7:49 pm
mick
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.theaa.com/motoring_advice/safety/filling-tyres-with-nitrogen.htm Got my mtrs filled at HiQ all 5 put on rims £40 which included nitro filling cant say i notice any difference.
Planes and racing car uses, we wouldn't be able to notice any changes except a little lighter wallet IMHO..
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15th Nov 2009 9:36 pm
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Not much point to it here in Aus,
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16th Nov 2009 12:01 am
BLACK BETTY
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Must try this for the craic,
we use our own nitrogen at the factory, produced on site.
A note on nitrogen production:( in our plant )
Its generated using a filter system basiscally, the nitrogen molecule is largest in the air make up and so is trapped in a set of filters fed from a compressor, so a vessel is drained trough a filter, anything left in it is Nitrogen, as all the other air component gases can drain out throught the filters.
so perhaps there is some weight to the theory that nitrogen will be less likely to leak out, as its a larger molecule, as for the other stuff, i can't say. Nine-tenths of wisdom is being wise in time.
BB,
On a very small level that must be true. The guy who spoke to Ron had it the wrong way round larger molecules less dense not denser but I don't think any of us would notice any benefits. However if it is free....fill your boots....
Trev.
16th Nov 2009 11:35 am
ad15
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Quote:
The Nissan GTR specification is that it must be filled with Nitrogen.
seem to remember that has something to do with the tyre keeping the same pressure whatever the heat of the tyre was. ie after smoking it for a while the pressure would not increase/ decrease.
dont recall it ever having anything to do with longevity or the like..one wife.......livid
You can see in extreme situations where mosture that is present in the air we fill our tyres up with can be a problem in either extreme cold or heat but not life expectancy of the tyre. Certainly not that we could see.
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cks I'm afraid Air is denser than Nitrogen because the other main constituent Oxygen is denser than N2. (1)
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