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lee157
 


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It's quite easy as Gareth says, if have time remove all headrests and the whole roof lining can be dropped onto the seat backs. There is a few pics in my gallery of the roof lining out to give you an idea of what you're looking at.

Regards

Lee
  
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Gareth
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Here's the view of my (very ex) D3 from the edge of the headlining.

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Heres what made me take the headlining down to investigate...

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You would think after all these years and issues l/r have had with sunroofs the head lining would be held up with velcro!
Every disco I have owned has had issues with the sunroofs apart from the D3.
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Gareth
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I know what you mean! My old D2 leaked like a colander! Again, it was sunroof drains, and poor seal against the roof. My D1 didn't have a sunroof, so compensated by leaking through the windscreen and doors!

My Series 2a. has never leaked. At least if it has, it's all run out the bottom before I noticed Rolling with laughter
  
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Nasher
 


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Gareth

Many thanks for the images, it looks a lot easier than I thought it would be to get the headlining down enough to see.

Unfortunately of course it's going to be the weekend before I can get anywhere near it.

Nasher.
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Thanks. This is interesting for me too. No sun roof but a leak inside...
  
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Nasher
 


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I'm hoping I've finally fixed this today.

We've had several bouts of rain recently and the car has been dry inside, but this morning after rain last night it was really bad again, the headlining was wet all across the front and water was all over the dash.

Luckily I've taken to putting a Flora pot in front of the Sat Nav screen when parked up recently just in case, and this had about 1/2in of water in it.
I hate doing it, but until I'm totally convinced it's fixed I'll put it there.

I managed to arrange the afternoon off work and stripped the inside of the car out expecting to see a drip from a sunroof drain when Mrs Nasher hosed the car down.

With the headlining down I was surprised that it was only wet right at the front, there was no dampness evident further back towards the sunroof.

Mrs Nasher hosed the car down and immediately there was literally a dribble of water coming in at the top of the windscreen on the passenger side, but NOT between the windscreen and the body, it was coming from between two spotwelds where one piece of the inner strengthening was welded to another,
See Image below.

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I spent a while on the inside trying to figure out where it could be coming from but ended up with Mrs Nasher in the car watching whilst I used a very small houseplant watering can outside the car to direct an accurate stream of water.
It appeared to pour in when I directed water at the roof trim strip so I pulled it back and homed in on the right area.

Referring to the image below, I discovered that if I poured water at point 1, or above it, water streamed into the car at the point shown in the previous image, but pouring it at point 2 or 3, anywhere in between them or lower down, didn't make the water come in the car.



To prove a point I rubbed a small wipe of grease over the seam shown at point 1 which immediately stopped water coming in the car.

I can only think that the black line shown at the seam is actually a gap that's opened up somehow.

I cleaned the area down with carb cleaner, dried it with a rag, then gently with a hair drier, and covered it in outdoor extreme condition sealant that is even supposed to stick to damp surfaces.

Fingers crossed it stops it.

Nasher.
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Well done. Sounds like you may have solved the problem. I doff my cap to your dogged efforts.
  
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Nasher
 


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Thanks Defector.

It rained a bit last night, but not much, and it was dry inside this morning, so I'm hoping for the best.

Nasher.
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Nasher
 


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Has nobody else seen this specific leak entry point on their D3?

I’ve not had any issues with the passenger side leak since I sealed it as per the post above, but the other morning we woke up to a very heavy dew, and even though we’d not had rain for a while I had drips on the steering wheel and a wet headliner above it.

My first reaction was to again check the sunroof drains, which were free, so I pulled the trim strip off on the driver’s side roof and found exactly the same leak entry point as I found on the passenger side.

I should of course have been more proactive and done it just in case when I found the passenger side, but it seems strange that both sides of my car should exhibit the same unusual fault.
Unless of course the manufacturing process of adding the sealer is carried out in tandem on both sides of the car at the same time and there was a problem.

Nasher
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Nasher
 


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Just my D3 then Sad

Nasher
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Gareth
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Maybe just you Nasher, but having re-read the thread, I bet your glad you found it. It's a great thread for future reference.
  
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Nasher
 


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Thanks Gareth

I've just looked at the timing of the other side opening up, and am wondering if the lower temperatures have anything to do with the sealant failing after 12yrs.

Perhaps others will start to see the same thing.

Nasher.
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