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philm
 


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Phone control

Some people have started to use whatsapp to phone me .
I can use the in car bluetooth to speak and hear them if I answer via the phone. Is there a trick to answer/call via the car control buttons?
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Whatsapp is owned by Facebook.

I would simply encourage my friends & family NOT to use Whatsapp.

If they want to use VOIP there are many more secure options, maybe something like Signal which is an encrypted communications app for Android and iOS. A desktop version is also available for Linux, Windows, and macOS.

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WhatsApp is fully encrypted which is why the security services and our utterly useless last few home secretaries wanted it banned.
  
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I prefer Viber, don't trust facebook.
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DG wrote:
WhatsApp is fully encrypted which is why the security services and our utterly useless last few home secretaries wanted it banned.


Depends who holds the keys and how its encrypted. https://medium.com/@gzanon/no-end-to-end-e...c6508731b2
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If anybody wants to hack into my Whatsapp account they are more than welcome to see the photo's of my dog and a pint of beer I had at the airport last week
  
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Hope the dog didn’t have to go through the X-ray scanner!!! Shocked Shocked

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adam wrote:
If anybody wants to hack into my Whatsapp account they are more than welcome to see the photo's of my dog and a pint of beer I had at the airport last week


Better still, if anyone wants hack me and see photos of half a dozen young females chasing after me then please feel free. Would do my street cred the world of good Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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Pelyma wrote:
DG wrote:
WhatsApp is fully encrypted which is why the security services and our utterly useless last few home secretaries wanted it banned.


Depends who holds the keys and how its encrypted. https://medium.com/@gzanon/no-end-to-end-e...c6508731b2


Maybe ....but then surely any developer could do the same ...who can prove total encryption? ...they all must leave a back door somewhere. Obviously even the best of the hackers & intelligence services haven't found it yet
  
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That wasn't the issue, the issue was can Facebook see the messages and calls and the answer is yes they can. Any encryption is breakable as it is only a mathematical calculation, it is a question of resources and the desire to do it. Everyone said the secure enclave in an iPhone was unbreakable, but it wasn't. At the end of the day any security is only as strong as the weakest link, we learnt that back in WW2 when a German operator sent a message twice without changing the code (it's usually the human element).

We'll never know what the intelligence agencies or hackers know. If there was a system that you'd worked out how to crack wouldn't you want all the "baddies" to use it? I guess an easy way is to shout that its terrible all these terrorists can use this as a means of communication which is likely to attract a percentage of potential targets to use this means and thereby making it easier to track them. The UK were selling Enigma machines log after WW2 to countries believing they were uncrackable........
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Pretty certain WhatsApp uses a version of Signal anyway - Facebook couldn't view
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Doesn't matter what encryption is used, it is still a mathematical problem to break and that comes down to resources. WhatsApp collects a lot more data than Signal, I wonder why? If you WhatsApp someone its funny how they come up as a suggested friend on Facebook.

At the end of the day does it matter any way? I don't care who knows about my conversations and if I did I wouldn't use any of the electronic means to convey it.
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