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How many bods should the RAF lob in to France for their effort to be considered sufficient? It’s an act of remembrance, not an exercise.
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Enough to make it look like the UK cares. Thumbs Up
 
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And the UK has the capability. Thumbs Up
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HWN wrote:
Enough to make it look like the UK cares. Thumbs Up


It is, of course, possible that the majority don't care...
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A recent poll showed the majority of young people think marking the two World Wars is no longer appropriate - apathy through comfort. The last eighty (mostly) conflict-free years in Europe is historically abnormal and shouldn't be taken for granted. It has to be worked-at, constantly. My parents' and my generations may well be the first two not to be involved in a conflict. My children's generation? Who knows. There are a lot of things that are just black dots on the horizon that could become fully-fledged shadows of doom.
 
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Marking of Armistice Day, etc., is as much about the Establishment keeping the idea of "dying for King and Country" in the minds of those that will be expected to do so, as actually saying "thank you" to those that did it last time.

Wars are young men killing other young men who they don't know, so that old men at home can thump their chests. Very few 18-25 year olds start wars but they are the ones that end up dying in them.
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I see the BBC is showing The Longest Day this afternoon.
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Isn't watching WW II films considered by Prevent to be an indication of right-wing extremism?
 
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RRSTDV8 wrote:
Marking of Armistice Day, etc., is as much about the Establishment keeping the idea of "dying for King and Country" in the minds of those that will be expected to do so, as actually saying "thank you" to those that did it last time.

Wars are young men killing other young men who they don't know, so that old men at home can thump their chests. Very few 18-25 year olds start wars but they are the ones that end up dying in them.


From what I've read, any call up will potentially include those up to 60 years old. Confused
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HWN wrote:
Isn't watching WW II films considered by Prevent to be an indication of right-wing extremism?

If so then attending Remembrance Day parades ought to be too. So that's the whole of the Establishment in the dock then...
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A whole load of crap. Grove's definition of extremism = thoughts, not actions. I spend my life looking at requirements and those produced by the government are rowlocks.
 
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Watching a war film is an action, not a thought, so we're ok watching The Longest Day, Sink the Bismark! and The Cruel Sea. Thumbs Up
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HWN wrote:
A recent poll showed the majority of young people think marking the two World Wars is no longer appropriate - apathy through comfort. The last eighty (mostly) conflict-free years in Europe is historically abnormal and shouldn't be taken for granted. It has to be worked-at, constantly. My parents' and my generations may well be the first two not to be involved in a conflict. My children's generation? Who knows. There are a lot of things that are just black dots on the horizon that could become fully-fledged shadows of doom.


A friend of mine works with young people through social services, many of them with serious issues - most of them have this attitude until he points out that if it was not for those who paid the price & the Nazi's had won they would have been "disposed of" - instant attitude change.
  
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Royal Navy gest a thumb's up from me: https://www.forces.net/d-day/navy-commando...t-normandy
 
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