crews control
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Has anyone else noticed how many D4's are driving around at night without at least a few dim or completely dud red LED's that make up the red outer circles on the 4 rear lights? If these are part of the "signature look" it's starting to appear there might be a problem as it ruins the effect.
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 1st Oct 2010 12:08 am |
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Dave
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I have seen two D4s with this, I didnt want to mention it, but how will they ever know if we dont tell them of course. We do light checks for towing but I guess the majority would never know until MOT time. Captain Nick Medhurst would ask:
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"Duratrac"
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| 1st Oct 2010 12:13 am |
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harrim51
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I thought thats how they all were? All the ones I have seen have dim on top light at about 10 o'clock on o/s and 2 on n/s...
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| 1st Oct 2010 8:32 am |
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DG
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Which part of the lights are the supposed duds?
If it's some on the nearest edge to the tailgate then it can give an appearance that there is not a 'full' circle of lights from certain angles. 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 1st Oct 2010 8:46 am |
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PaulP
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From certain angles, the shape of the lens makes the inside edge (as DG says) LEDs look more blurred. The lens in front of the rest of the LEDs is completely flat so they shine brightly.
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| 1st Oct 2010 9:08 am |
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crews control
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I realise that from some angles the circles might be obscured or slightly dim but what I'm talking about is faulty or missing LED's at random positions. I seem to be seeing a lot recently? Last night I followed a black D4 onto the EuroTunnel. It was bling'ed up to the max with loads of chrome and very shiny. I didn't have the heart to tell him his rear lights looked like pie charts with random slices missing. They appear to fail in segments and once you start to notice, you'll see this is happening to a lot of D4's?
I mention this one simply because I had a long time to study it from directly behind. The failed segments were at 2 o'clock on the top offside, 9 o'clock on the top nearside and 12 o'clock on the bottom nearside. I should have taken a photo but didn't think at the time. Thing is, this was one of many I've noticed recently that have similar segments missing.
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| 1st Oct 2010 9:55 am |
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PaulP
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OK....I've never noticed this.....let's hope it isn't a common problem, because it certainly isn't as easy as changing a bulb over at a quid a pop. 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 1st Oct 2010 9:57 am |
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DG
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It would be a warranty job methinks 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
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| 1st Oct 2010 9:59 am |
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PaulP
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Not for those of us with D4 rear lamps on our D3  2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
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| 1st Oct 2010 10:00 am |
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adam
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Rear lights, Brakes or both - just checked my rears - OK
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| 1st Oct 2010 10:04 am |
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Lookers Park Royal
Member Since: 29 Nov 2008
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Checked mine too and all ok. Not had any comments from our Service team regarding it being a regular issue but will keep an eye out for any reports.
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| 3rd Oct 2010 8:54 am |
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
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D3 LED's look like the light pack can be replaced. Behind mine is an upper n lower cap held in with screws, so maybe can be replaced. Anyone know if they can?, although mine are fine.
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| 3rd Oct 2010 9:41 am |
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wiggs
Member Since: 03 Sep 2006
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Yes they can ... Expensive though at just over £100 each one G4 Gone ...but not forgotten
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| 3rd Oct 2010 9:52 am |
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MacLeod 313
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£100 is better than a NEW D4 light set at £250 onwards though.
Thanks for the info Wiggs, glad I went D3 LED's if there could just be a problem with D4's
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| 3rd Oct 2010 12:19 pm |
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doubledoom
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I checked mine after seeing this thread and found that whilst they are all working, from various angles some can appear to disappear or get blurred out by the outer glass.
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| 3rd Oct 2010 10:41 pm |
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