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Red Merle
 


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110CSW wrote:
Well I have braved looking at the D5 again on the assumption that they tidy up the back end eventually. The killer for me was the middle row seats, could not believe how they were on the floor. Jumped in a RRS back seat and they were fine. What have they done with the D5? Volvo here we come.


The D5 may be the black 🐑 of the LR family and I understand that, but I struggled to see the appeal of an XC90 over the D4 when I went to look at one. Is it the XC90 that you’re looking at and what is it that marks it out over, say, a RRS?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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lynalldiscovery
 


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Cranks dont snap Mr. Green
  
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jimbg
 


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Probably got it's own set of problems though! Thumbs Up
  
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Moo
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But its Censored is not lopsided. Thumbs Up
 New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)

Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)

Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)

No longer the Old Buses original owner Sad
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control 
 
Post #190404820th Jan 2018 8:23 pm
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Red Merle
 


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In relation to cranks, I wonder if there are people on the Volvo forums blowing their instances of failures out of all proportion as well?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
Post #190405620th Jan 2018 8:34 pm
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Red Merle
 


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Moo wrote:
But its Censored is not lopsided. Thumbs Up


Fortunately, that only afflicts the D5. There are still some perfectly sound designs at LR as well, like the RRS, FF and even the Velar is very handsome, if a bit compromised.
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
Post #190405720th Jan 2018 8:40 pm
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Moo
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What I find surprising is that after the much anticipated arrival of the D5, the number of D3/4 Forum members that are going elsewhere for their next car. The XC90 seems to be the car of choice.
 New Defender L663 110 SE (known as Noddy!)

Sold Volvo XC90 R-Design (known as Basil)

Sold - D4 HSE (Known as Gerty)

No longer the Old Buses original owner Sad
231,000 miles and counting
05 S manual owned from March 2005
D4 Face lifted
Still original injectors and turbo
V8 Front brakes
BAS Remap, Allisport Intercooler and deCat
EGRs blanked
T-Max split charge
Hanibal Expeedition rack
Prospeed ladder
Duratrac tyres
IID BT
BAS FBH control 
 
Post #190406720th Jan 2018 9:13 pm
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jimbg
 


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Perhaps you should start a thread with a poll to check out your theory regarding what Disco owners have actually bought? Whistle
  
Post #190408320th Jan 2018 9:54 pm
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mse
 


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I’m going back to a d4 as the d5 is just wrong...first year in 8 I’ve not had a new Land Rover and I’ve had every model. The dealers say I’m not the only one...this is the first year in 10yrs LR dealer rung me to buy a car and it was a d5, that told me everything in a call!
 Mike  
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How bad need sales to drop it to get to have JLR revise the D5 to appeal to customer demands..
  
Post #190414421st Jan 2018 12:38 am
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Red Merle
 


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It will have to get worse, a lot worse, than this before the board members become brave enough to tell His Gerryness that he needs to stand up, because it’s coming out muffled.

Having said that, there are many parallels with Chris Bangle and BMW managed to sort even him out in the end, so there’s hope! Thumbs Up
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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Jaguar Land Rover reports record annual sales Whistle

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42603271
 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day! 
 
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muddywheels4wd
 


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Interesting their best seller is the DS which has been the most complained about LR imho based on 16 years LR ownership and various forums - it's also the LR that ended my LR vehicles ownership Confused
 Wanted a Series 2 LR since childhood but previously owned MY16 Disco Sport HSE TD4 Auto, MY13 RR Sport Black Edition TDV6 Auto, MY10 RR Sport HSE TDV6 Auto, 2007 Freelander 1 Freestyle TD4 Soft Top, 2009 Freelander 2 GS TD4 Auto, 2007 Freelander 2 GS TD4, 2004 Disco 2 Metropolis Auto, 2002 Disco 2 GS, 2000 Freelander 1 SE TD4 SW

Still hoping for a S2 one day! 
 
Post #190425721st Jan 2018 11:47 am
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crews control
 


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That's pretty much built on Jaguar in China... but for how long?

I fear we've already gone past the point where a few tweaks to the D5 will help the LR brand now. They've completely left the utilitarian market... it's gone, finished, kiss it goodbye! All LR's eggs are now in the luxury, fashion, yummy mummy brigade, and the figures suggest the D5 isn't that appealing to those types either. LR forgot what made LR's image so attractive... and it has nothing to do with off-set number plates.

Yes I'm still angry! Laughing

P.S We could do our own poll... how many disco members on here now don't drive full fat disco's - that'll tell you all you need to know about the sales figures!
 2005 D3 HSE
2011 D4 Landmark
2016 D4 HSE Lux
2017 Ford Tourneo VR46
Club Waitomo 
 
Post #190425821st Jan 2018 11:50 am
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Red Merle
 


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That’s a good idea! Something like:


Of those that have moved on:

How many have moved on to a D5?
How many have moved on to something else?
Of those that have moved on to something else, would you have either bought another new D4 (if it had been available) or a D5, if it hadn’t fallen short of expectations?
 2011 - 2015: 3 x FL2
2015 - 2017: 2 x D4
2017 to date: FFRR SDV8
2023 to date: FL2 as a second car

2021 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200
2022 to date: Hinckley built ‘14 Triumph Trophy 1200 & sidecar!
(One of only two known to exist in the world!) 
 
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