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[Mechanical] Spare Wheel Hoist Seizure
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WayneD
 


Member Since: 11 Sep 2007
Location: Sydney Darwin ,Singapore and now USA
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Australia 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3

I fitted a spare wheel carrier 2 years ago and today decided to put another spare underneath as I get ready to head outback but cant get the cable down any further than about 4 inches. Will try to put some weight on the cable and see what happens.
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Post #7127906th Nov 2010 7:16 am
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Hi.Jack
 


Member Since: 20 Aug 2011
Location: Abu Dhabi
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United Arab Emirates 2009 LR3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverLR3

Even the Abu Dhabi dealership bolloxed my winch when they replaced new 2 new tyres and a spare swop on my LR.

Guess what ?

After a blow-out on one of my equally useless Good Years, I tried to change the spare next to the road, the winch was broken. I could not get the spare out.

Replaced under warranty after they tried for 4 hours to remove the unit (with the spare hanging onto it), to claim the unit under warranty from the suppliers.


Replaced the factory fault with the same they did, albeit a new factory fault.

Boggles the mind really.

THE one thing you need on an off-road machine is a spare tyre.


Lucky for me the country is small. If it happens in the dessert I will call the Tow-Assist - free of charge.
  
Post #82766021st Aug 2011 5:35 pm
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Jacedo
 


Member Since: 05 Sep 2012
Location: California
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United States 2006 LR3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverLR3

anyone have tips for releasing the spare when the winch breaks?

my winch won't lift or lower the spare... which wouldn't be immediately concerning except that the spare has been swinging/bouncing a bit when offroad.

thanks!
  
Post #9734965th Sep 2012 5:36 am
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Hi.Jack
 


Member Since: 20 Aug 2011
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United Arab Emirates 2009 LR3 4.4 V8 HSE Auto Zermatt SilverLR3

Only way to get it out is to cut the cable Big Cry
It will probably take an hour or two, and you would need to keep the wheel jacked up, so that it does not fall on you and break a body part. As per my post above, the LR dealers in my case resorted to this technique after 4 hours of trying to unbolt the unit.

Not easy to reach the cable and most tools required for the job is to big to fit through the gaps in your rims.

Having said that, it good for us and bad for you. Keeps the wheel nickers out of easy business. I had a spare nicked, hence my sardonic tone. Mad

Good luck Thumbs Up
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Post #9736945th Sep 2012 3:25 pm
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disconev
 


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Wales 2005 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Java BlackDiscovery 3

Only just bought my d3 so tried mine this afternoon.....
And all is ok Thumbs Up

I think i'll try to test it on a regular basis....
  
Post #100146110th Nov 2012 8:31 pm
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cristalfb
 


Member Since: 12 Apr 2012
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Australia 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

Baffled!! Shocked Anyone know how this annoying piece of scrap actually works? I stripped mine down after the cable jammed, fixed the cable, assembled the unit, tried it in a vice with weight on and it worked okay. Fitted to car, tried with wheel. NO GOOD! Evil or Very Mad Removed unit again, stripped it, cleaned grease out as I thought it was slipping. Worked well in vice with weight on. But on the car with a wheel. NO! Had about a 6 inches gap to unhook wheel from hook. Exclamation I thought maybe to centre shaft is slipping and shouldnt be so I drilled and pinned the plastic wheel to the shaft. That didnt work, nothing turned. Havent given up yet. I'm in the process of maufacturing a carrier to replace the OEM one. I'll keep everyone posted. Idea

See my later post "Wheel Winch Repair". Good Luck
  
Post #11260033rd Jul 2013 4:43 am
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ampnorfolk
 


Member Since: 11 Jan 2013
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Qatar 2008 LR3 4.0 V6 Petrol HSE Auto Baltic BlueLR3
Problem sorted

Made the fatal error of chucking the wheel with a cracked Cra Perrelli Zero (don't last more than 12 months here in Qatar) in the boot after dropping the spare. Wound the hanger back up and a week later when I got round to it, guess what, it wouldn't drop!! Got it fixed today, I hung off the cable (with my considerable weight with the Landie on Off Road) whilst my son wound up / down / up / down, and with a copious amount of WD40 she came free. Wont make that mistake again!!
  
Post #12286631st Feb 2014 4:23 pm
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Iguana
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Added my tow Electrics last week and winch worked perfectly.... ....... so my question is, is there anything I can do to keep it working? Grease, WD40.....and if yes, where do I put it Thumbs Up
 Ieuan

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Post #12286801st Feb 2014 4:38 pm
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cristalfb
 


Member Since: 12 Apr 2012
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Australia 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4
Spare Wheel Winch Lube

Hi IEUAN,
WD40 would be the best unless you have removed the assembly from the car. Did you see my repair on this forum? Martin made it available in PDF. If you don't get it let me know and I will email to you.
All the best.
Chris
  
Post #12290222nd Feb 2014 4:30 am
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Iguana
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Hi Chris, carried some searches by can't find the guide - any chance you could forward the link please?

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Post #12290482nd Feb 2014 8:50 am
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cristalfb
 


Member Since: 12 Apr 2012
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Australia 2011 Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 HSE Auto Fuji WhiteDiscovery 4

Hi IEUAN,
Try this link. http://www.disco3.co.uk/gallery/albums/use...Repair.pdf

I have made a small change to the procedure so if you email me 'cristalfb@bigpond.com', I'll send you the latest.
Cheers.
Chris Wink
  
Post #12296272nd Feb 2014 10:40 pm
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Alan B
 


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Scotland 2007 Discovery 3 TDV6 XS Manual Stornoway GreyDiscovery 3

If it's still working just now
My advice would be slacken it to the ground and rub grease on the cable
And spray wd40 or similar into the mechanism.

Never try to lift it without any weight on it as this causes problems.

If it is knackered I think it was MPS trading in the site sponsors section were selling new ones for around £60

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Post #12297033rd Feb 2014 8:16 am
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Iguana
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Wales 2015 Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE Lux Auto Santorini BlackDiscovery 4

No it's certainly working at the moment, just want to see what i can do to keep it working - will certainly follow the WD40 route for now Thumbs Up

Great instructions though on the PDF, will certainly keep these on the PC, but hopefully won't really need to use them Thumbs Up
 Ieuan

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Post #12297133rd Feb 2014 8:38 am
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Erea
 


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Ireland 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 Commercial Manual Zambezi SilverDiscovery 3

Hi don't let an air gun, puematic gun etc. near the winding bolt. It will break even a new one. Only wind it down and up by hand.... And I'd agree will all others only with wheel attached.
  
Post #12297263rd Feb 2014 9:01 am
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Grumpy Dave
 


Member Since: 26 Jun 2014
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Australia 2009 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Zermatt SilverDiscovery 3
Seized spare wheel winchRepair

I managed to repair the seized spare wheel winch as follows:
Remove the winch. Drill out the rivets that join the 2 halves. Split the 2 halves using a hammer and cold chisel. Untangle the cable and rewind it onto the spool. Bolt the 2 halves together and refit to the vehicle. Never lower the cable without a weight or tension on it.
  
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