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Robbie
 


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Darren, the site rules (and arguably common sense) dictate that we will not be telling anyone how to remove a tow bar without a functioning key and lock.

We are all prepared to help, but not to post.

But you have made us laugh.

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I simply wanted to know if I needed to buy another lock or not. I did not give any detail with regard to how I removed the existing lock.

Yes, you need to buy a new lock.
No, you don't.

I can't imagine the Magic Circle excommunicating anybody over that surely?

I asked for help, that's all.

Thanks anyway,

Darren
  
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Darren,

There may be ways without a lock but I can say it is possible with a new lock and they don't cost much.

Oh and you can sell a functioning tow bar on here for over £100.

Sounds like you need a beer to chill-out.
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Thanks Robbie. Apologies for narkiness and funny you should mention it but beer is now in hand.

Cheers,

Darren
  
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So what are my options to get my towbar off my recently purchased D3 ? I have no keys for the towbar, and seems like although it can be removed without keys, knowbody will divulge how to do it on here or in a PM.

Can anyone advise me how I can get it off ? is taking it to a dealer the only option then ?
  
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Apparently this is the point where I should either ridicule you or accuse you of being the head of an international tow bar cartel

However, yes go to your AD's parts counter, buy a new lock and ask them to advise you how to swap them over. They may take the Censored and roll around laughing at you like blue200tdi or they may just help you as you have asked.

Give it a go.

Cheers,

Darren
  
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DiskoStew wrote:
Apparently this is the point where I should either ridicule you or accuse you of being the head of an international tow bar cartel


Hey come on ...he's not from Essex Wink
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They may take the Censored and roll around laughing at you like blue200tdi or they may just help you as you have asked


Sarcasm is amusing, I love sarcasm, but maybe you need a beer to chill out, maybe you had a bad day...but I was not laughing AT you, I was laughing at the fact that there was a thread on here the other day with a vote for whether the mods should moderate posts detailing how to remove a tow bar. The general consensus was that there should be no details given for removing a tow bar, even in a PM.

And you pretty much gave yourself and everyone reading this thread the answer. That's what the Shocked was for and the Rolling with laughter thinking about DG's face when he read your post. Laughing

I do apologise if you had a sense of humour failure, maybe have some alcohol ready for next time. Wink Thumbs Up
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DiskoStew wrote:
Apparently this is the point where I should either ridicule you or accuse you of being the head of an international tow bar cartel

However, yes go to your AD's parts counter, buy a new lock and ask them to advise you how to swap them over. They may take the Censored and roll around laughing at you like blue200tdi or they may just help you as you have asked.

Give it a go.

Cheers,

Darren


good advice, I'll give it a go, hopefully they will be helpful Thumbs Up
  
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I recently had this problem and have finally sorted it by buying a new lock then was told by the dealer how to change it, which is very easy when you know how.

However, i still couldn't get the towbar lock mechanism to turn as it had rusted inside. I had to lower the spare wheel out of the way so i could hammer the pin back into the tow bar in order to release it. Once out, WD40 and movement of the mechanism sorted it, now it works perfectly. That tip was on here Wink

Its a removeable towbar, so if you're not using it and don't want it stealing, then remove it! If you're towing then most trailers are locked onto the bar and thieves are unlikely to go to the trouble of removing your entire towbar to steal a trailer, as how would they tow it? If a proper thief wants your towbar they'll do the research in order to get it if you left it on. The lock is only to stop oppourtunists!
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Fine words indeed.

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iand3 wrote:
I recently had this problem and have finally sorted it by buying a new lock then was told by the dealer how to change it, which is very easy when you know how.

However, i still couldn't get the towbar lock mechanism to turn as it had rusted inside. I had to lower the spare wheel out of the way so i could hammer the pin back into the tow bar in order to release it. Once out, WD40 and movement of the mechanism sorted it, now it works perfectly. That tip was on here Wink

Its a removeable towbar, so if you're not using it and don't want it stealing, then remove it! If you're towing then most trailers are locked onto the bar and thieves are unlikely to go to the trouble of removing your entire towbar to steal a trailer, as how would they tow it? If a proper thief wants your towbar they'll do the research in order to get it if you left it on. The lock is only to stop oppourtunists!


Indeed. Are not "fixed" tow balls just bolted on in any case? I know mine is in the dixon bate bar on the defender. In fact the adjustable height ones are secured with a removable pin. So the poor lockability of the swan neck seems to offer more security that the traditional tow bars.

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A minor technical point gents.

WD40 (water dispersant mix 40) is not manufactured as a penetrating oil, it is thin so does penetrate to a certain extent but a real penetrating oil is far better as it contains chemicals better formulated to remove rust, hard grease etc.

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However, i still couldn't get the towbar lock mechanism to turn as it had rusted inside. I had to lower the spare wheel out of the way so i could hammer the pin back into the tow bar in order to release it. Once out, WD40 and movement of the mechanism sorted it, now it works perfectly. That tip was on here
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Without disclosing the details all I will add - having done this at the weekend - is watch out for the flying ball bearing!! Whistle You will soon find out why its there and what not to do........

There are two somewhere in my garage now. The first one I never knew about as it ricocheted off the roof above me and disapeared off to keep the old Series 1 company and the second time (after I had found a spare bearing (you do have one of thoses dont you!!) is now in some spider infested corner - This one happened while I tried to replicate what happened the first time Embarassed
  
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