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Swap or not?
Hi All,
Just bought from Inverness an 05 HSE with fairly shot Pirelli Scorpions on. They are 255/55/19's and the wheels are in excellent condition with the spare being new/unused.
Now to the question/dilemma. We are off to the Pyrenees in Sept doing some off roading so I was wondering if I should swap the wheels n tyres for 18's or fit some AT's/MT's?
I notice that you can't get AT2's in 19 inch which would be my preferred choice but you can get Goodyear MT's.
Suggestions anyone?
Russell."UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
9th Jul 2009 9:58 am
SJR
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Waiting for the flood of replies saying MTR's............................... I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
Buzz Aldrin (1930 -
to SJR I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
9th Jul 2009 10:02 am
SJR
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Ya got me there I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
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9th Jul 2009 10:05 am
Japseroony
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NoDo$h wrote:
Pirelli ATR
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The only thing about the Pirelli's are they look too much like road biased tyres for my liking?
Having said that I have only seen them on Tyre Spot sites so may actually be better looking/more aggressive looking in real life. Anyone got any pics with them on a vehicle?
Russell."UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
Aggressive tread isn't the holy grail. An AT can do a better job on rock and loose stone and they're still pretty capable in the gloop.
EDIT: All due credit to Ken for the use of a photo from his gallery I know it's not considered "kind" to say no these days, but no. Just no, ok? And if it's not ok, still no.
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9th Jul 2009 10:18 am
SJR
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I am going to agree with ND there
You might also find a tyre like the Pirelli ATR will be better in terms of comfort, noise and economy on the not insignificant run down to the Pyrenees (and back)
edit: Oh, and NoDo$h, whose gallery is that picture from I believe that every human has a finite number of heart-beats. I don't intend to waste any of mine running around doing exercises.
Buzz Aldrin (1930 -
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9th Jul 2009 10:21 am
bigdave g4
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mtr all the way
9th Jul 2009 10:25 am
Willy Eckerslike
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General Grabber AT2's though I might be slightly biased as I have a set for sale with 10mm tread on 18" Alloys Club Pie n Pea
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9th Jul 2009 10:28 am
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You've got 19's, you need new tyres anyway, so just go MTR's, they're 8) and work very well Bodsys Brake Bible
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9th Jul 2009 10:48 am
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Another vote for MTR's. I've just refitted mine after taking them off for a while. Whilst a notable increase in road noise it ain't so bad you lose the enjoyment of driving the D3 and they look 8)
Also agree that the ATR will be better on road situations. I ain't the worlds best offroader but noticed a sizable difference in competance between MTR's and scorpions on slippy rock crawl/slight climbs.
I've a second set of 19" wheels and will be swapping the wranglers for pirelli ATR's at some point.
9th Jul 2009 10:57 am
kevin-t
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I will be doing the same trip Pyrenees in Sept
Mtr's, Keep mine on permanant now.
More noise than scorpians, nothing i cant live with thou.
Kevin-T..................
9th Jul 2009 11:03 am
Japseroony
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Willy Eckerslike wrote:
General Grabber AT2's though I might be slightly biased as I have a set for sale with 10mm tread on 18" Alloys
Would love some but they dont do them in 19".
How much for the wheels n tyres your selling? Do you have 4 or 5 and what wheels are they?
Russell."UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
9th Jul 2009 11:27 am
Japseroony
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kevin-t wrote:
I will be doing the same trip Pyrenees in Sept
Mtr's, Keep mine on permanant now.
More noise than scorpians, nothing i cant live with thou.
Kevin-T..................
You going with Colin and Ian from landroverevents?
Russell."UNDERSTEER" ---is when you hit the fence with the front of the car.
"OVERSTEER" ------is when you hit the fence with the rear of the car.
"HORSEPOWER" -is how fast you hit the fence.
"TORQUE" ------------is how far you take the fence with you.
9th Jul 2009 11:27 am
Willy Eckerslike
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Location: N Yorks
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IMHO, I would have and did have two sets of wheels, one for offroad use that have on suitable tyres (will end up scratched and marked up) and a smart set for everyday use. In your case as your 19" Tyres are at the end of their life it would make more sense to buy off road tyres this time and then maybe look out for a set of road biased tyres later. Most people run MTR's simply because they look good which in itself is a perfectly good reason, too many people forget it's what personaly makes you happy that matters.
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