Member Since: 14 Jan 2020
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 256
id expect the D5 to be a good bit different what with the changing emissions laws but I guess the block and heads could well be similar enough ?
23rd Jan 2020 9:20 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
D5 is a different engine since it is a 3.0.
My topic is about the 2.7l. And I need it in the end as a euro3 spec.
Do not want to be rude but
Since I need to make a choice for a replacement engine for my D3 ASAP, I like to keep this topic as clean as possible please..
ThnxBest regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
23rd Jan 2020 9:26 am
bembo449
Member Since: 14 Jan 2020
Location: Gainsborough
Posts: 256
have you considered the Peugeot 2.7 unit aswell ??
23rd Jan 2020 9:33 am
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
Yep, but I expect they are even more different regarding the bolt on stuff...
So not an option for now, since I want to save 1 or 2 day’s extra work if possibleBest regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
23rd Jan 2020 9:40 am
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10362
Do not use the French engines as the engine to gearbox bolt pattern is different
23rd Jan 2020 1:08 pm
defector
Member Since: 23 Feb 2009
Location: Greater Manchester
Posts: 1419
Yes i modified my engine when i was rebuilding it to use the tabbed bearings i was supplied with the crank.
I think they went to tabbed bearings after a certain year - 2010 or 11 i was led to believe.
The link below has some of the detail how i modified the caps.
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
Just Bought an 2008 jag engine..
69000 miles...
Arriving on next Monday. I will start to have a look at the oil pump (strong one or not), have a good look at the big-end shells, maybe replacing them anyway..(and bolts then), not sure what to do with the main bearings with this milage.. (are the main bearings the one’s who go first and then destroy the big-end’s or is it the other way around? Logically the oil feeds the crankshaft through the mains so i suppose the inner mains go first I presume)
And taking all the jag stuff off, as with all the EU4 parts, as I have a EU3
I hope I get the injectors out of the D3 engine as 3 are very very stuck, but working ok, so I like to save them..Best regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
31st Jan 2020 9:54 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
Well the Jag engine arrived, today..
Looks good, but seller told me it is from a 2008 JAG S-type
I presumed it is/was EU4 But... looking at the EGR coolers, it looks EU3 type..
the mounting points at the EGR valves themselves seem also the EU2/3 type..
I am not sure, can you determine the EU3/4 model sorely from the EGR coolers?
what i can find online after a quick-scan it seems that in 2007 only the Manual JAG was EU4 complilant, so maybe, just maybe even de 2008 autobox S wasn't EU4 yet..
I have to start “stripping” so I presume more details will show up later on, but I am very curious now, so if someone can see/determine allready something, please reply..Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
3rd Feb 2020 3:39 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 4647
Have a look at the HPFP connections as they are different between EU3/4 and not interchangeable. So if you have EU4 on the Jag you will have swap over everything, ie HPFP, injectors, loom, egr's etc.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
3rd Feb 2020 4:04 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
Yeah.thnx. .. the swapping part is kind of “general knowledge”...
But regarding the which connections of the HPFP are different? Connections from the LPFP to the HPFP?Best regards
Harold
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Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
3rd Feb 2020 5:48 pm
PROFSR G
Member Since: 06 Mar 2017
Location: Lost
Posts: 4647
If I remember correctly the low pressure connections are different as are the VCV and PCV conns.yµ (idµ - eAµ) ψ=mψ
3rd Feb 2020 6:09 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10362
the flywheel should tell you if its from an auto or manual. (try your locking tools to see which ones fit)
3rd Feb 2020 6:55 pm
Motolab
Member Since: 18 Oct 2019
Location: Sleen
Posts: 1815
I am in the proces of stripping the acquired Jag 2.7l engine from its ancillary’s
It is a engine from an S-type on a 08 plate.... claimed by the seller..... (What can be false info ofcourse)
BUT what I can find (and that is not much on the internet/jag forums) is that almost all TDV6 engined Jag s-types are equipped with a DPF and therefore EU4 (?) BUT the egr’s, hpdf, injectors, fuel rails... they all seem to be the same parts as on EU3 land rovers... (based on the manufacturers parts numbers on the parts on this engine..) interesting....
Saves me time in stripping the fuel parts and... who are 50k younger than the ones on the LR engine Best regards
Harold
Always looking for Pre '55's & Pre war British Motorcycles! knowing or having one for sale? PM please. I visit the UK 6 times a year
Ps. I edit my texts quite often, english is not my native language, so I will edit My “typo’s” etc.
9th Feb 2020 11:09 pm
Pete K
Member Since: 15 Jan 2016
Location: GL
Posts: 10362
It’s true that DPFs were fitted to jags before LR
9th Feb 2020 11:27 pm
KostasA
Member Since: 23 Aug 2015
Location: nairobi
Posts: 286
on your RHD the EGR has still the sticker on. type the model number and see where it is. On advance factor for example you have a different part number for EU3 or EU4.
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