Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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Test book
out of curiosity do land rover dealers still use testbook for the D3s , if not what system do they use plse
many thks in advance
13th Mar 2018 11:35 pm
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6570
The D3 is covered by JLR SDD (symptom driven diagnostics).
14th Mar 2018 5:35 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
Posts: 13635
hi
many thks , it was just out of curiosity with what they used and wondering if it can do any more than what the iid can
know having theses iid readers pay for them selves very quickly
thks again
14th Mar 2018 5:41 am
kajtzu
Member Since: 11 Aug 2017
Location: Helsinki
Posts: 6570
I’ve seen both “in action” and I think they’re catering to a bit different crowd.
IID is (at least nowadays) the tool of choice if you need to read codes, do some ccf changes, read values, etc. for a casual or a prosumer user the value prop is great. For independent workshops, the same thing I think, although there is then a subscription cost.
SDD does all the JLR approves stuff, lets one query some backend database for outstanding recalls, checklists for potential issues and when displaying codes suggests remedial actions, etc. I think the intent is that it tries to be smart about things and save time. It did seem to suggest most likely causes and ways of verifying those. User experience is the same for all modern JLR vehicles, I believe. Subscription probably costs a bit more than the GAP IID pro subscription.
Only the largest of the indy shops here in the metro area has SDD, the rest have something else (not IID either).
14th Mar 2018 6:25 am
gstuart
Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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bless u for the very informative reply , many thks
suppose also it’s like everything if the user at the dealer knows how to decipher the information that the machine is telling them
must admit never had anything as comprehensive as the iid and been a life saver with sorting out errors along with saving a fortune
seeing it only takes 4 x visits to the dealer for the iid to pay for itself
thks again
14th Mar 2018 6:38 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Member Since: 21 Oct 2016
Location: kent
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hi DM
may i ask do u use these kinds of system please
my brother works as a HGV mechanic and has mentioned in the past some of these diagnostic machine can have eye watering costs involved , especially some of the constant updates
assume even in the last 10 x years they’ve moved on in leaps and bounds with the advancement of technology that they now installed in modern vehicles
suppose it will come to the stage where diy work on ur own car with be the thing of the past due to there sheer complexity
14th Mar 2018 7:43 am
Disco_Mikey
Member Since: 29 May 2007
Location: Dundee, Scotland
Posts: 20731
I recently bought an Autologic system. To buy outright was ITRO £8,500...
I ended up leasing over 3 years, as it worked out marginally cheaper over the term (tax relief for business) without the huge initial outlay
In addition, there is £1,000 p.a to keep the system up to date, and continue support for module programming etc
So yes, it is very expensive, but in this game, it’s what is needed to stay at the top
(Not taking anything away from the IID. I used it for nearly 4 years before buying AL, and I still favour it over all the other diagnostic kit for most diag work )My D3 Build Thread
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