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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
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Hi Mate, thanx for your Post. 
I took the diva to work this morning.
The fault is definitly (pardon my english) intermittent.
On the 22 km the first 10 km were ok. then 5 with Hazardlight ("vehicle fault - system shutting down).
then 1 km ok again, then flashing again.
When i turn on the vent to maximum, it seems to speed up the problems coming around.
So i think somewhere there is a Kontakt failure....
I have the wiring diagrams. I think i might understand them.
But I need a map of where the connections are!
Tonight i will start "Measuring-quest"...
Can someone tell me if there is a Fuse for the hazard lights?
I ducttaped it (mc Gyver-style) but i would rather like to disconnect them.
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 11th Sep 2017 8:05 am |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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I don´t understand.
My IID Tool says: no connection with medium Speed CAN
But the faults it read are all High speed Can-issues:
Steering
Parking Aid
Parking Brake
Steering Angle
Vehicle Dynamic
Why?
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| 11th Sep 2017 4:46 pm |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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Phifross wrote:Dear Dutchrockboy,
You will see, it is not too hard to remove the instrument cluster, don't worry.
It takes not more than 30minutes. For, me I need only 10minutes, but it is because of practice  but I can't say I'm very happy to have this kind of practice 
When you have remove the cluster, you will see a plug on the bottom right. Try to move a it a little.
If the problem is from this plug, Chritmas Tree cluster will go on and off as you touch the plug.
For me, I had to put somehting like a small rubber below the plug to stabilize it. Before to put the cluster in place, please move it again to be sure that what you put is enough....
I don't think, from my little knowledge, that only by testing you will be able to find where the problem is. As you read, you have seen that the Electronic design of the LR3 is strange and disturbing... very sorry about it.
I hope the problem is from the cluster, that would be simple to fix it. No need to change the cluster too, it is expansive and to it by yourselves it is a little complicated....
If the problem is not from the cluster, really sorry !!!!! But anyway we are here to help you !!! I have suffered enought to feel sorry for others.
Also, if you need I'm selling my MSV-2 from Blackbox, it is a very good tool that helped me a lot !!!! But I'm not using it anymore because I have sold the car. Also if you are interested, don't hesitate to contact me.
Please, don't hesitate to contact us for any question !!!
Cheer up !!!
Best regards.
Philippe
Hi Philippe,
wenn i remove the cluster, can i measure the resistance and the voltages on the connection?
Or should i only measure when everything is in place?
Still strugling,
Best Regards,
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| 16th Sep 2017 2:34 pm |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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So i am still struggling, still measuring.
Philipp i copied some of your sentences.I hope you don´t mind.
On the diagnostic socket (OBDII) on PIN 14 (Low Speed CAN bus) the voltage is 2,3 V.
On PIN 6 (High Speed CAN bus) the voltage is at 2.6V.
I measured the same voltages while the car was doing OK, and while the Car was in Problem Mode (Blinkingn Hazardlights only on outside, no Heating, no radio)
I thought removing the battrey would reset the fault. But there seems no correlation between the Battery and the failure. The problem starts intermittent, does not go away after removing battery. It is just there and comes and goes. Sometimes 30 seconds after starting, sometimes 2 minutes, lasting for 30 seconds to 20 minutes.
Then i removed the battery and checked the Resistance, between the PIN 3 and 11 it's ok I have 60 Ohms. Between the PIN 6 and PIN 14 I also have 60 Ohms.
I disconnectes the battery while the problem was there, and while all was well. The readings were the same all the time.
So… i think that it must be the Instrument Cluster.
I removed the Cluster and wiggled the connection and tapped the Cluster.
On wiggling the connection, one time ist started blinking, one time it stopped blinking.
Now i can´t seem to reproduce the faillure again.
It will probably occur again after putting everything together again.
The cluster has 16-20 wires going into the connection. I have no clue how to find the wire with the problem. Or how to determin if it is not the cluster itself.
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| 17th Sep 2017 4:31 pm |
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shanegtr
Member Since: 22 Aug 2014
Location: Perth - Western Australia
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The problem wires will be can bus, so look for the twisted pairs of wiring
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| 18th Sep 2017 12:44 am |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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Update:
I built the Cluster in, Problem came again.
I built it out, wiggled the wires. Found nothing.
I am sending the Cluster away for repair.
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| 19th Sep 2017 5:54 am |
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shanegtr
Member Since: 22 Aug 2014
Location: Perth - Western Australia
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I'll let you know how my repair gets on when I eventually get mine back (its been a looooong story so far and is still ongoing)
Let us all know how it goes
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| 20th Sep 2017 12:45 am |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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Does someone know if the engine will start when the cluster is built out?
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| 22nd Sep 2017 6:39 am |
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shanegtr
Member Since: 22 Aug 2014
Location: Perth - Western Australia
Posts: 142
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I dont think it will
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| 22nd Sep 2017 10:41 am |
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shanegtr
Member Since: 22 Aug 2014
Location: Perth - Western Australia
Posts: 142
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Seems like my issue was a can bus fault in the cluster. Just got mine back from a full rebuild and so far no more faults
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| 9th Oct 2017 4:03 am |
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Dutchrockboy
Member Since: 16 Apr 2014
Location: Germany
Posts: 85
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Seems like my issue was also a can bus fault in the cluster.
I got mine back from Cluster Repaitr.
I put it in and so far (6 hours driving) no more faults. 
No more Blinking.
My SHMBO was very very gratefull 
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| 10th Oct 2017 4:04 pm |
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