Glenn of Belgium
Member Since: 29 Jul 2013
Location: Zeebrugge
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Hello,
I like that the EPB doesn't engage automatically if i stop the car.
I seem to be doing something wrong while i'm pulling out the key and pushing down the EPB button.
The manual discribes that you should wait about 5 secs after pulling out the key and pushing down the switch at the same time, this after the engine OFF to position 0, than turn the key to position 2.
Then position 0 and taking the key out...
The EPB applies almost every single time (as it should)
What the manual does not say is: what to do with the pedals (brake/clutch)?
It's a TDV6 2.7L manual transmission...
Can I disable the EPB function countiniously or do I have to do it every single time?
(Don't wan't to pull out the fuses...)
What am i doing wrong in the procedure?
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 20th Nov 2013 6:56 pm |
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sputnixb51
Member Since: 23 Apr 2013
Location: Morayshire
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Sorry not understanding exactly what you are trying to say?
To apply EPB when stationary pull switch up
To release push down you can be in gear to do this but clutch pedal has to be down.
If you come to a halt and turn off the ignition the EPB applies itself IF you forget!
In an emergency you can apply EPB while moving but it shortens it's life
If you apply EPB rolling backwards you will get the screaming often mentioned because the shoes don't self servo so cables have to travel to far inside module(classic car owners pre disc brakes will understand this).
There is a sequence in your manual to set EPB for servicing you then have to remove a fuse as well.
Hope this helps. 
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| 20th Nov 2013 7:57 pm |
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D4JWW
Member Since: 20 Oct 2009
Location: London, UK
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Glen
I have a 09 manual gearbox D3 and have permanently disabled the auto epb engage on removing the key. This was done with my Faultmate by disabling the function in ccf files(think it can be done with IIDTOOL also), done the same on 2006 manual D3, similarly enabled the auto release of epb on pulling away, very . I believe you can stop the epb from engaging when the key is removed, by holding the epb switch down before removing the key, no extra things to do...obviously this needs to be done every time you pull the key out and don't want the epb to engage otherwise it would revert to default of auto engage. Does yours auto release on pulling away? A few mods... and keeping it all running...Faultmate MSV2
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| 20th Nov 2013 8:29 pm |
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Discoed
Member Since: 16 Jun 2010
Location: Yorkshire
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I have an 05 manual and it ALWAYS engages EPB no matter what I do. The only way to stop it engaging is to remove the fuse!
Holding the EBP switch down makes no difference what so ever. 
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| 20th Nov 2013 9:12 pm |
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sputnixb51
Member Since: 23 Apr 2013
Location: Morayshire
Posts: 833
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When your up here in the mountains with 3.5 tonnes on the back you want the thing to work as land rover intended on a manual and go on heel & toe to pull away on a 1:3 releasing just as clutch pedal starts to engage.if auto drivers use it infrequently then it wants to auto engage or it will be down a thousand feet below you as soon as they step out. 
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| 20th Nov 2013 9:44 pm |
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Glenn of Belgium
Member Since: 29 Jul 2013
Location: Zeebrugge
Posts: 108
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Hey,
My EPB does work as it should... It disables also when i'm driving away.
So, if i understand the answers correctly, there is hardly a procedure for schutting the d m thing off every single time without using a faultmate or computer?
I just don't like the thing to go on automatically every single time. Here in Belgium there arn't much mountains  
Any people that had problems in winter time like...freezing schoes or cables?
Reagards,
Glenn
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| 21st Nov 2013 11:08 am |
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Woolmeister
Member Since: 26 Mar 2007
Location: Chandler's Ford
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Glenn,
I also drive a manual. 
My EPB automatically applies when I remove the key from the ignition EXCEPT when I hold down the EPB switch and remove the key at the same time (EPB Service Mode is required when servicing the rear brakes otherwise the discs will not come off easily).
If yours is not doing that there is something wrong somewhere. Good luck changing your rear discs next time they need doing (although I guess you could remove the fuse for that).
There may be a software update? Just a thought.
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| 21st Nov 2013 11:24 am |
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Comanche
Member Since: 22 Jul 2010
Location: So far behind I think I'm first!
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Same here, hold down the switch when removing ignition key and the EPB doesnt engage. I started off with nothing and Ive still got most of it left.
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| 21st Nov 2013 11:37 am |
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ruben
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+1 lost in translation!
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| 21st Nov 2013 11:48 am |
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Tufty
Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: UK
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It doesn't work on my manual either. Found that out when I had a epb issue earlier in the year. 
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| 21st Nov 2013 6:53 pm |
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sputnixb51
Member Since: 23 Apr 2013
Location: Morayshire
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To answer the freezing up bit we experience -20deg c & on occasions lower and I have never had the hand brake or cables on any land rover freeze.though I have had the pads freeze solid in the carriers and that is mighty alarming!!!! 
So unless you park in a metre of water down there in the low country I wouldn't worry about it.
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| 26th Nov 2013 1:41 pm |
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Glenn of Belgium
Member Since: 29 Jul 2013
Location: Zeebrugge
Posts: 108
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Thanks Sputnix... 
It's a bit of a relief to hear that.
I also thought that the EPB motor/system wears a lot by switchting so much off and on and off and on ........
Regards from the rainy Belgium.
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| 27th Nov 2013 3:15 pm |
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Somerset Jem
Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Somerset
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The EPB is probably more likely to seize up or cause you issues if it is not used on a regular basis.
Jem 2005 D3 HSE side steps, tints, tlo fridge, egr's blanked.
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| 27th Nov 2013 3:33 pm |
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sputnixb51
Member Since: 23 Apr 2013
Location: Morayshire
Posts: 833
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Certainly the shoe fulcrum point where the cable pulls them on can be a problem especially at the release combined with weak rusting return springs also this would affect any adjustment made and on occasions cause the module scream we hear so much about.
Winter well nice talking to you.
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| 28th Nov 2013 5:18 pm |
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