Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
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Winter Tyres - Nokian, Nokian, Dunlop or Vredestein
Dear All
Looking to put some winter boots on my Disco4. I'm tempted by the CCB rating and low(ish) price of the Nokian WR SUV 3 (£160) but am wondering if the C wet rating might mean they are a little soft and wear quickly.
I'm also been contemplating the slightly more expensive Goodyear Ultra Grip SUV (ECB) (£176) and the Dunlop SP Winter Sport 4D (CCA) (£200)
From another post I've had today I know several members are running Wintrac Xtreme (CEB rated) (£145) and would welcome additional opinions on these as well - especially wrt the E rated wet performance - in a big heavy disco I'm thinking it might matter !!!
All prices above are from TyreLeader website.
1st Oct 2014 10:55 pm
mick
Member Since: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Yorkshire
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Nokian for me not got any for the disco but have a set on the Defender
1st Oct 2014 11:02 pm
chrisd4
Member Since: 01 Oct 2014
Location: Leicestershire
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What's the wear rate like on them?
1st Oct 2014 11:07 pm
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Added a poll for you 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
1st Oct 2014 11:10 pm
ronp
Member Since: 29 Nov 2006
Location: North Yorkshire
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Had Nokian Winters on last vehicle, was so impressed I also bought a set of Nokian Summer tyres.
Made in Finland, they are regarded as a premium tyre brand just like Michelen, Goodyear, Bridgestone, etc.
Excellent value for money.
Btw, why is Nokian listed twice in the Poll ?🏴
1st Oct 2014 11:16 pm
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Maybe because its listed twice in the thread title and I wasn't reading the words 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
1st Oct 2014 11:22 pm
LT
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Scroll down to the bottom of the page for SUV/4x4 tests.
I'd stick with one of the Land Rover recommended tyres, all of which they've tested and approved.
Hopefully Ken will post on here or your other thread. He's got valuable first hand experience of cold weather tyres fitted to most if not all of the current LR range.2006 D3 HSE (Original & still the best)-GONE
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2nd Oct 2014 12:07 am
DiscoJake
Member Since: 23 Aug 2013
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Not had them on a big heavy disco but previously had Dunlop winter sport 4d on my 1.8 tonne A6 Quattro and they were sublime
Would like to know how they handle the extra weight and why they are so expensive in 19"
2nd Oct 2014 1:07 am
AJS4X4
Member Since: 30 Mar 2008
Location: Surrey
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Vredestein are very popular and we have just had a new price list negotiated with them with some very nice prices.
Vreds for me but to be fair I've not tried the others. Went (like you prob) on recommendations. Been very happy with them____
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2nd Oct 2014 7:50 am
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On a D3 or D4 the Wintracs are great in cold weather, icy conditions, slush, snow, heavy rain, dry braking, consistent handling, no tram lining, quiet, tough, long lasting even if driven all year. Good price too.
The 2 negatives are damp/greasy conditions associated with light rain or wet mown grass with that thin fine mud that gets in the sipes (think Bambi on ice for this last point).
I've driven on Nokians in all conditions and was impressed, but I have no long- term experience with them so no idea how they perform in the warmer months or how long they last. Prices were extreme but not looked at current prices.
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I currently am using, and well pleased with B F Goodrich AT KO tyres (245/70/ R17) supplied & recommended by AJS they seem to be a good compromise, and no wear is discernible after 12.5k miles!
Previously I had GG AT2s which I took off part warn as last December I drove overland to the Peloponnese & back, heavily laden.
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2nd Oct 2014 8:50 am
dubbs
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Wintracs on mine (or will be when I swap to winters later in the year) and have been happy with them - however it hasn't snowed yet!!!
There are better off road snow/ice type tyres out there but if you're using tarmacced roads and just want to make sure you're not the idiot who has a 4x4 and can't get up that hill or still needs to get down that unswept road - wintracs will do you very nicely and are reasonably priced.MY15 DIY Black Pack (Better than factory and half the price!)
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2nd Oct 2014 9:19 am
jim4244
Member Since: 05 Oct 2012
Location: UK
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I fitted Nokians on my old Volvo XC90. Fantastic tyres in low temperatures, ice, snow and slush. Nokian say that you can leave their tyres on all year round.
Sold the XC90 to my In Laws in 2012 and they still have them on. They have probably covered 22,000 mile and are just coming up for replacement.
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2nd Oct 2014 10:20 am
Brian_DL13
Member Since: 25 Aug 2013
Location: Teesdale
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Troon wrote:
How do the standard M+S-stamped but not winter 20" Pirelli Scorpion Zeros cope in snow?
Yes, that's a question I have too.
I've read that the standard LR M+S tyres as fitted are 80-90% as good in the snow as a dedicated winter tyre (in which case why have a special winter set?) but has anyone done a comparison ?
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