Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
My New Toy - 54 Plate HSE....
Morning Chaps,
I've been a member of the forum for about three years, and have only just taken the plunge and bought a one owner 54 plate HSE with most of its service history and 114k on the clock. I had a long chat with the owner who had largely looked after the car, and this was reflected in the service book and the paperwork I got with it.
So off I went out west to see/purchase it, and saw evidence that all the brakes, bushes and other running gear had been done, and his indie garage told him the next service was belts time. Now obviously I'm new to the marque, but even I know they're due at 105k/7 years, and hey guess what that service is the one missing from the book. It appears this guy was merely taking the advice of his indie, and given the fact he's replaced all the tyres with new Pirelli Scorpions, done all the running gear, car spotless and average mileage, price reflected the cambelt requirement, I went for it.
While driving back, I filled up, or rather overfilled and the rodent nibbling breather issue manifested itself at the M4 services. Ok I thought, this can't have just happened, but having said that I've never really been one for topping my car right up, and this was my first fill so I didn't know how much the fill up would turn out to be. Previous owner obviously denied he knew anything about it, but then so would I! Anyway, that stopped, and was put on the list as the first job. This brilliant forum has helped with that, thanks.
So, then I get back and the bleeding boot cable goes... Rites of passage and all that, that's fixed. If dealers want to charge £300 to sort that out I really am in the wrong game, it was so easy.
So, back to the belts. I asked a couple of people, and got some prices from locals in North London where I work and also from Marshalls Halesworth (until recently was Hammonds who were recommended to me for their reputation), and the indies came in anywhere from £880-1400, while the dealer has come in at £730 for both belts, tensioners and crank bolt, plus, and this is my query, with the high pressure injector pump belt at the same time, what's that all about? They want the car for the day, and I get a courtesy vehicle in the meantime - fair?
Reading elsewhere, I was wondering if I should add the oil pump at the same time, whether to have it checked or replaced? I can't find any evidence in the service history to say if it's been done or not... Thoughts anyone?
I'm so happy with the car, and fully accept I'll have things to do on it. The guy did look after it in the main.....
I'd appreciate any thoughts or observations, cheers all,
Mike
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7th May 2015 8:03 am
Iguana
Member Since: 14 Oct 2013
Location: 'Sunny' Zomerset
Posts: 9402
Firstly Welcome
Secondly, without any photographs your purchase never happened
As for the belts, I‘m sure that some of the forum sponsors can much better the price you‘ve been quoted, I had mine done with a local member for a significantly lower price including what I paid for parts, this also included the pump - I got all the parts from AF first.
Looking forward to seeing the pics Iggy/Ieuan
Current LR =
2015 RR Sport Autobiography
&
1992 Land Rover Defender Camper
- Gone but not forgotten:
MY10 D4 GS
MY05 Disco 3 'S'
MY14 FL2 HSE manual in Blue
MY15 Disco 4 HSE Lux in Santorini Black
MY08 Disco 3 SE manual in Buck Blue
1960 Series 2 88" (No idea why I sold it!)
7th May 2015 8:10 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
Thanks! I've added one for reality purposes...
Regarding the impending job, I asked around a lot, and I've ended up at the dealer almost because it's pretty convenient, and can accommodate quickly. If anyone in the north London, Suffolk, Norfolk area can help, I'd happily rearrange...
Ta,
Mike
7th May 2015 8:38 am
JimmyHughes
Member Since: 24 Mar 2015
Location: Norfolk
Posts: 69
Where are you in east anglia?
7th May 2015 9:15 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
Welcome Mike ...I had previously noted your avatar ... this ?
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off the Harrow Road 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
7th May 2015 9:27 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
That's the one! Spent the best part of 20 years in and around that place... Got promoted out... The third appliance along is/was my speciality...
Mike
7th May 2015 9:48 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
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Posts: 50934
Lovely ...I'm a closet fireman myself ..love the engines 21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
7th May 2015 9:57 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
Haha, all the new ones look the same to me... Take a look at the other toys I'm involved with...
Mike
7th May 2015 10:08 am
Iguana
Member Since: 14 Oct 2013
Location: 'Sunny' Zomerset
Posts: 9402
Are we allowed fire engine porn on here?
Quite lovely looking though Iggy/Ieuan
Current LR =
2015 RR Sport Autobiography
&
1992 Land Rover Defender Camper
- Gone but not forgotten:
MY10 D4 GS
MY05 Disco 3 'S'
MY14 FL2 HSE manual in Blue
MY15 Disco 4 HSE Lux in Santorini Black
MY08 Disco 3 SE manual in Buck Blue
1960 Series 2 88" (No idea why I sold it!)
7th May 2015 10:19 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
Haha - the ladder is off for painting this week... Will look splendid come the summer....
Mike
7th May 2015 10:21 am
DG Site Moderator
Member Since: 12 Dec 2005
Location: The Gaff
Posts: 50934
Saw a lovely old Dennis Pump Escape down at Brooklands last Monday ...it was absolutely mint 8)21 year LR veteran > D2 GS 2003 > D3 S 2006 > D3 HSE 2009 > D4 HSE 2013 > D4 HSE 2015 > D5 HSE 2018 > DS HSE R-Dynamic P300e 2021
7th May 2015 10:27 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
Ah yes that would be the old Middlesex Dennis F12, reg no 1AMX, one of the very best...
7th May 2015 10:29 am
Discogaz
Member Since: 17 Mar 2014
Location: Bracknell
Posts: 1399
Hi Mike
The cost of the pull down is the major component as belts are cheap so, in your shoes (was recently) I'd get them to put a new oil and water pump on as they don't last forever.
Maybe a little too much preventative maintenance but worth doing for the sake of maybe £80 in parts.
7th May 2015 10:37 am
paddingtonfire
Member Since: 27 Nov 2011
Location: East Anglia
Posts: 38
Thanks for the tip. Just spoke to the dealer who's doing the belts, and they said an extra £893! Is this right or should I leave for service time in November?
Mike
7th May 2015 1:47 pm
Discogaz
Member Since: 17 Mar 2014
Location: Bracknell
Posts: 1399
£893 for supplying and fitting an oil pump and water pump is a rip off considering they have already taken the front to bits to replace the belts and pulleys, minimal additional work involved, maybe 10 minutes max.
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