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Robbie
 


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Lost for Words wrote:
Slimer wrote:
DSL wrote:
Daft question but was the park brake on? Shouldn't that have held it?
and being an auto was it not in Park?


Park can't hold it once the driveshaft is disconnected, since the rear TF box output can then spin freely - IOW, exactly what happened. The EPB would have though.


I must be having a dull day as I don't understand why the vehicle moved.

Even with the rear prop disconnected why did the EPB not hold it?

If the EPB failed (or was not applied) why would the vehicle move with Park selected?

A school day for Robbie no doubt.

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Geoff at Drym
 


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Maybe I'm being naive here, but if your vehicle is in 'park', you only lock the transmission (the gearbox) so the braking effect is from the gearbox via the propshaft to the back axle. If you disconnect the prop you have no braking effect. I stand to be corrected!

We all make stupid mistakes. I fitted the top hose elbow U - clip incorrectly and went for a couple of weeks before it blew off and emptied the cooling system. DOH!!

Absolutely delighted to hear that you are on the mend (Dalek?) and that the Disco is not damaged. Only joking. Get well soon, you have my best wishes.
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Lost for Words
 


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A standard diff allows the two output shafts to rotate in opposite directions when the input shaft is held in place - the matematical equation being A = B + C, with A being the input. By locking the input to the diff (transfer box, in this case), the outputs (i.e. front and rear wheels) can only turn in opposite directions by spinning the pinions - when A is fixed, B can only be the inverse of C. Disconnect one, however, and the other is free to turn either way.
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Robbie
 


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I'm still a bit loss, so type with care and sympathy!

The gearbox is locked by the locking pawl preventing rotation of the output shaft and anything connected to it. In this condition just how does the front prop shaft still rotate allowing both front wheels to rotate forward or are you saying the centre diff reverses the rotation from the front even when the output shaft is locked?

Question
 Land Rover - Turning Drivers into Mechanics Since 1948

Battery & Quiescent Current Drain Testing

Diagnostics for:
Defender, FL2, D3, D4, Evoque, RRS & FFRR
A not-for-profit enterprise


 
 
Post #15261618th Sep 2015 11:24 am
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Lost for Words
 


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Yes, the transfer box will reverse it.



The crownwheel is fixed, but the two planetary gears (labelled "side gears") are able to rotate in opposite directions allowing the driveshafts to do the same. (Obviously, the TF box uses an epicyclic arrangement but the function is the same.) Thumbs Up
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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This lesson in mechanics is going to give DALEK a headache to distract from his rib-ache. Whistle Whistle

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Lost for Words
 


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Well at least he's completed the practical part... Laughing
 Current: Discovery 3 06MY (55 reg) HSE Auto Zambezi Silver Zambezi Silver Allisport Fast Road Intercooler, V8 Brakes, Silicone IC Hoses, EGRs Blanked, Remapped, De-Cat pipe, FBHIC
Freelander 2 2007 HSE Manual Tambora Flame
Previous: FL2 56 reg SE Manual Black (written off Sad )
Disco 3 06 reg B7S Manual Rimini Red Rimini Red
Disco 2 TD5 Y reg ES Manual Blue - Chipped Very Happy
Several Discovery 300 TDis
 
 
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DSL
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Shhhhh, don't make him laugh. Shocked Shocked

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DALEK
 


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A chuckle I can manage a sneeze or cough is to be avoided!!!

Thanks for the great humour its helping as daytime TV isn't!!!

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DSL
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At least we haven't started with the puns, if we did you'd be in for a right ribbing!! Snigger
   
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Oh no your not on a roll are you del? Whistle
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DSL
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No, not yet. With the vino I could ramp up the puns. Whistle Whistle
  

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The poor guy must feel chocked choked after this
   
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Is it a bit cruel to start cracking jokes? Maybe we should put the chocks on it! Whistle
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Stop it right now - these jokes must crush him
  
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